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Title: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on July 07, 2007, 01:59:51 AM
Help Us Help Hemmings

I spoke with a Hemmings (http://www.hemmings.com/) editor today.  A fellow by the name of Dan Strohl.    We have been invited to begin submitting a puzzle once a week for them to use in their blog.  It will be credited and linked to us.  We need to use pics that we have permission to use via owner or copyright.  I need submissions of pics of cars that fit this description.  We can always start requesting permission from people when we find good pics to use. In the meantime, I need some pics to submit.  Can anyone help me?  If you can please respond here and let me know and send me via email or pm the pic and the info on the car.

Help!!!   This is our big break as a website and I cannot do it alone!!!


The following is the text of the emails that helped get this started:


   -----Original Message-----
    From: Charles Oncina II
    Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2007 1:41 PM
    To: dstrohl@hemmings.com
 
    Subject: Re: Thanking you for mentioning AutoPuzzles.

>Daniel,
>
>I would like to thank you for mentioning us in your blog in reference to
>grobmotorix's identification of the Dan LaLee hardtop convertible.  If I
>can ever be of service to you in any fashion, please let me know.  I
>believe the synergies between Hemmings and AutoPuzzles make that service
>a distinct possiblity.  Let me know if you would like to discuss some of
>my ideas.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Charles Oncina II
>President, AutoPuzzles.com.



    Daniel Strohl wrote:

>Charles-
>Of course, you provided a clue, so I felt an update was in order.
>
>You do seem to have some interesting puzzles up there. Where do the pictures
>come from?
>
>And I'd be happy to hear some of your ideas. I'm in and out of the office at
>random times, so feel free to put together an email with your ideas and we
>can discuss.
>
>thanks,
>dan
>

    Daniel,

    The puzzles are procured and posted by our website members. 

    AutoPuzzles mission is, in essence, a research project designed to create a worldwide community of experts at the identification of classic and esoteric automobiles.  It is a non-commercial, non-profit mission with the long term goal of creating a virtual encyclopedia of esoteric automotive knowledge.

    In order for the AutoPuzzles mission to succeed, what I need to receive for this site is increased awareness across the worldwide automotive community.  What we have to offer to Hemmings to try to convince them to help support our mission includes access to and the rights to use our Feature Articles in any way beneficial to the Hemmings publishing group, access to our membership and cross-links on the pages of our site highlighting our partnership in the furthering of AutoPuzzles mission.  In return, I would love to see something like the following somewhere besides my forum signatures:

    Click here to name that car
    Click the pic, name the car

    I think a small slug-in like the above linking AutoPuzzles to Hemmings would look good on Hemmings pages.  The pic updates almost everyday and would help to give your site fresh content and a fresh look on a regular basis.

    If any of this sounds like something you would like to discuss further or if you have any other ideas regarding our working together to increase awareness of both of our sites, I would love to continue the conversation further.  Let me know what you think via phone or email.

    Sincerely,

    Charles Oncina II




Charles-
I'm thinking there's three distinct opportunities here.
 
* First, of course, is the Hemmings blog (blog.hemmings.com, where we posted the pictures of the mystery retractable). We're always looking for quality content there and could develop a regular feature in conjunction with AutoPuzzles.com. I'm thinking weekly, either Fridays or Saturdays, with a short write-up about the car (about a paragraph: where the picture came from, hints and/or clarifications) from you or the submitter.
 
* Second and third, in both Hemmings Classic Car and Hemmings Sports and Exotics, two of our print magazines, we run columns called Lost and Found, in which we do essentially the same thing you do at AutoPuzzles - dig up photos of odd cars and ask our readers to identify them. I run the L&F column for HCC, while David LaChance runs the L&F column for HSX (I've cc'd him on this email). I'm up to my eyeballs in reader submissions right now; David less so. But we both see AutoPuzzles as a great resource to tap into from time to time for the L&F columns.
 
In both cases, we would provide links back to AutoPuzzles.com. In both cases, we would also be most interested in fresh content that hasn't appeared on AutoPuzzles or elsewhere previously.
 
My major concern is, of course, copyright. Not so much of AutoPuzzles providing the materials to Hemmings, but more of where the photos originate and whether your submitters have full copyrights to the photos.
 
That said, I think we can make this work and we can all benefit from it.
 
dan
 
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 07, 2007, 02:03:10 AM
Now we the gang at AutoPuzzles need to pool or efforts and help make this reply representative of a team.

Anyone want to offer up their thoughts on all of this news?

Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Boxer2500 on July 07, 2007, 02:12:42 AM
The only thing I wonder about is the copyright issue with the photos. I'm not terribly well versed in IP law, so I really don't know what to tell you there.

Looks like a cool development, in any case.
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 07, 2007, 02:15:10 AM
The only thing I wonder about is the copyright issue with the photos. I'm not terribly well versed in IP law, so I really don't know what to tell you there.

Looks like a cool development, in any case.

The photos we use on Hemmings we will have to verify permission to use.  With proper credit to the photographer or owner at the conclusion of the puzzle, I am quite sure most people will love the exposure.  It doesn't seem like an insurmountable hurdle to me.
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: grobmotorix on July 11, 2007, 03:37:50 AM
Copyright will be the biggest problem, of course. But letīs see how things develop...
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 12, 2007, 03:15:38 PM
Copyright will be the biggest problem, of course. But letīs see how things develop...


Here is how they developed;

I spoke with a Hemmings editor today.  We can start submitting a puzzle once a week for them to use in their blog.  It will be credited and linked to us.  We need to use pics that we have permission to use via owner or copyright.  I need submissions of pics of cars that fit this description.  We can always start requesting permission from people when we find good pics to use. In the meantime, I need some pics to submit.  Can anyone help me?  If you can please respond here and let me know and send me via email or pm the pic and the info on the car.

Help!!!   This is our big brake and I cannot do it alone!!!

 :-\
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Allan L on July 12, 2007, 03:41:46 PM
Do you want to use photos we've already used on this site?
If so most of mine are my own and therefore my copyright.
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 12, 2007, 07:40:44 PM
Do you want to use photos we've already used on this site?
If so most of mine are my own and therefore my copyright.

I can use them and I will as necessity dictates.  They would like for us to use puzzles that have never been presented before.  Any chance you have some photos you haven't posted yet?
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 13, 2007, 02:08:42 AM
Do you want to use photos we've already used on this site?
If so most of mine are my own and therefore my copyright.

Thanks you so very much.  I will be using your photos at some point I am sure.  I want to give them new submissions before I start using puzzles from our inventory.  They want this as well.

Do you have any other photos you can share?   Can you get them to me?  A Personal Message with them attached would do the trick.

Please!
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Allan L on July 13, 2007, 09:06:00 AM
Ultra: you seem to be writing doublespeak!

I really have little idea what Hemmings is (or are) so I don't really have any wish to contribute to it (them) first.

This site has given me some good fun and I try to reciprocate in kind.
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 13, 2007, 11:09:20 AM
Ultra: you seem to be writing doublespeak!

I really have little idea what Hemmings is (or are) so I don't really have any wish to contribute to it (them) first.

This site has given me some good fun and I try to reciprocate in kind.

Doublespeak it is!  ;D

Thanks for your contributions here, Allan L.  If you are curious, Hemmings is called the collector cars bible here in the States.  It is a publications firm that specializes in classic cars.  They are telling us that they will use a puzzle or two of our contribution in their print mags, with referring links.
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Ultra on July 20, 2007, 12:36:41 PM
Gentlemen, check this out:

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/

 8)

P.S. Thanks, Karn.  It is you who really deserves all the credit.

http://autos-daily.com/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: barry2952 on July 21, 2007, 08:52:12 PM
I know Dan Strohl. He wrote an article on my wife's '55 Porsche  Cabrio for Hemming's Sports and Exotic and has just finished an article on my Mark II convertible for the upcoming October issue of Hemming's Classic Car.

I found him a real pleasure to deal with. Here's a real insight to the man. He's really tall, like me, but loves cars that have been shortened from their original configuration. I shortened a Corvair. He loved that story. He also likes American Motors stuff.

Good luck, maybe you could give them some help on their forum. It's kinda slow.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on July 21, 2007, 09:35:09 PM
Good luck, maybe you could give them some help on their forum. It's kinda slow.

I would like to see them make us their forum, actually.  I just haven't quite figured out how to approach him on that one.   ;)
Title: Re: Hemmings
Post by: Otto Puzzell on July 22, 2007, 08:25:55 AM
Gentlemen, check this out:

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/

 8)

P.S. Thanks, Karn.  It is you who really deserves all the credit.

http://autos-daily.com/

'tweren't nothin'
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on July 24, 2007, 11:46:40 AM
3 comments so far:

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/07/20/friday-autopuzzler-are-they-gaining-on-me/#comments
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: GRAYWOLF on July 24, 2007, 12:12:24 PM
P.S. Thanks, Karn.  It is you who really deserves all the credit.

http://autos-daily.com/

What am I missing in this link?
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on July 24, 2007, 12:33:57 PM
P.S. Thanks, Karn.  It is you who really deserves all the credit.

http://autos-daily.com/

What am I missing in this link?

The Hemmings blog and AutoPuzzles was listed there the day the blog was posted.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on July 27, 2007, 09:38:35 AM
This weeks AutoPuzzle on the Hemmings blog can be found here:

http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/07/27/friday-autopuzzler-one-of-a-kind/#comments

 8)
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on August 02, 2007, 08:25:10 AM
Sure could use more submissions for the Hemmings puzzles.

Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on August 11, 2007, 10:18:59 AM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/08/10/friday-autopuzzler-wings-n-wood/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on August 17, 2007, 02:41:48 PM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/08/17/friday-autopuzzler-coy-damsel/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on August 30, 2007, 02:18:16 PM
Sure could use more submissions for the Hemmings puzzles.



I NEED more puzzles for Hemmings.  I am about out.

Anyone?   Help!  Please.

 :touched:
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 31, 2007, 05:31:26 AM
I'll put some together this weekend
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on August 31, 2007, 09:05:16 AM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/08/31/friday-autopuzzler-jack-the-giant-and-the-touring-car/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 07, 2007, 10:59:26 PM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/09/07/friday-autopuzzler-which-way-forward/

Need more puzzles.........
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Allan L on September 08, 2007, 03:44:10 AM
As we just saw, no point in putting on "Hemmings" one that's just been solved here if you also tell 'em where to look!

Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 08, 2007, 10:48:48 AM
As we just saw, no point in putting on "Hemmings" one that's just been solved here if you also tell 'em where to look!



I didn't tell em where to look and it got solved here right after I submitted it.

 :-[
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on September 08, 2007, 10:59:23 AM
Their site seems to be down - which one got solved?
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Allan L on September 08, 2007, 01:44:26 PM
Their site seems to be down - which one got solved?
My Bean-bodied FIAT!

There was a reference to Autopuzzles with it IIRC which told 'em where it was worth looking.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 08, 2007, 02:24:35 PM
Anyone got any puzzles to submit?
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 11, 2007, 12:42:10 PM
Charles-
I meant to tell you yesterday, before I had to rebuild my computer's
email program, that I won't be in this Thursday or Friday, so if you
could send the AutoPuzzler for this week either today or tomorrow, I'd
appreciate it. Sorry for the short notice.
thanks,
dan


Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Stephen M on September 11, 2007, 10:15:01 PM
I dug through my archives, Most I've already posted here or don't hold the copyright to. I did come across one, though. It's either a give-away or annoyingly difficult, depending on your perception and familiarity with the mark in question. And it's my personal pic, so we're in the clear on that score :

(http://stephenmason.com/pics/temp/smpuzzle9.jpg)

Suggested hint:

Name that door frame, and name those who crawled through it one day. There are clues buried in, on, and around this heavily cropped picture, so get digging.

Answer PM'd to Ultra to thwart those who might come digging here :)





Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 14, 2007, 03:28:47 PM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/09/14/friday-autopuzzler-not-smart-enough/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ultra on September 21, 2007, 12:19:31 PM
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2007/09/21/friday-autopuzzler-at-least-the-wings-sedate/
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ray B. on April 10, 2008, 05:52:15 AM
I don't see new Friday-Autopuzzlers on the Hemmings blog. Why? Was it too much work? I am ready to help, although I don't quite understand the copyright problem.

Is there a connection (lack of publicity) with the fact that there seem to be a serious rookie shortage lately: about the same number of members since weeks.
There maybe another reason for that: I checked that by, on Google advanced search, the designation of a car from the solved puzzles. It almost never leads me to autopuzzles.com. Even less if you do it in the image search.
Can anything be done about that?

Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: @re on April 10, 2008, 06:07:02 AM
Yeah, I recently found out that, too. It wasn't like that before - if you searched for a car you'd get to the forum - but now you don't get a hit on the web page even if you search specifically within autopuzzles.com through Google. Very strange.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 10, 2008, 06:09:54 AM
I think the Google problem is related to the red-herring names given to the posted puzzle pictures. Maybe, going forward, we could caption the solved puzzle with the make and model of car. Not sure if that would work.

If you'd like to start writing features for AutoPuzzles, puzzles for Hemmings, or contributing in other ways beyond the great puzzles you present, that would be welcome, indeed. As my long exile from Detroit is about over, I hope to be writing, posting and updating the site much more often, as well.  
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ray B. on April 10, 2008, 06:32:32 AM
I think the Google problem is related to the red-herring names given to the posted puzzle pictures. Maybe, going forward, we could caption the solved puzzle with the make and model of car. Not sure if that would work.
Well, I'm not sure, even less if it worked before as @re says. Here is how I checked it: I pasted in the "exact phrase" frame, for instance "Solved! MG Prototype ADO35" (to pick a puzzle solved long enough ago, so Google has had time to scan it. I don't keep the characters like # in case it might cause a problem). This one gets a hit in the Google advanced search, but none in the image advanced search. I explain that by the fact that maybe the image is too far from the title. Maybe... I've seen many cases where Google points to an image quite far from the phrase you search.
But if I search the more recent "1922 New Hudson, London Edinboro model", for instance,  I get 0 hit in the autopuzzles.com domain.

Besides, if we don't keep the "Puzzle #1055" or so in the caption of the solved puzzles, it will be hard for puzzlers to keep track of the ones they're trying to solve, won't it?
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 10, 2008, 06:41:45 AM
I'm not suggesting removing the name or number of the puzzle from the post. Rather, I think putting the name of the car immediately below the picture once the puzzle is solved.

Example:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3719.msg23431#msg23431
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ray B. on April 10, 2008, 06:43:48 AM
If you'd like to start writing features for AutoPuzzles, puzzles for Hemmings, or contributing in other ways beyond the great puzzles you present, that would be welcome, indeed. As my long exile from Detroit is about over, I hope to be writing, posting and updating the site much more often, as well.  
Thanks. I just checked the copyright problem in all the posts in this topic and I don't think I can get over that. The puzzles I propose come from the net or are scanned in my books or old magazines. Too bad.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ray B. on April 10, 2008, 06:47:32 AM
I'm not suggesting removing the name or number of the puzzle from the post. Rather, I think putting the name of the car immediately below the picture once the puzzle is solved.

Example:

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=3719.msg23431#msg23431
Yes, great idea, worth a try.
Only thing is, you'll have to explain us how you do it. The "modify" button, sure, but most of us, it seems, don't know how to place the pic ABOVE the text as you do, which is much better.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 10, 2008, 06:56:42 AM
Well, being an admin, I have the luxury of loading the pics on the server. However, if you have the picture on photobucker or another picture upload site, it would work just as well. Your post would be writtind like this:

Quote
(http://www.picture hosing site name here.com/filename.extension)

Know what it is?

Please, respond below and let us know the make and model designation of the car posted here.

If you haven't registered yet, you need to do so in order to reply with your answer.  You can do so by clicking here (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?action=register).

Also, please be sure to check out our other puzzles, and, please post a puzzle of your own if you'd like - the more, the merrier. :D

Thanks!

You would need to put the correct location and file name in, of course. And remove the "quote" modifiers.  :)
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 10, 2008, 06:59:39 AM
Guess I'll have to PM it to you...
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Ray B. on April 10, 2008, 07:11:59 AM
What is "PM"? Don't forget I'm a frenchie, and besides I don't know (and don't care much to know) the meaning of many internet abreviations (LOL, BTW, IMHO and so on).
For the picture upload sites, sorry, I'm not to inclined to do it this way. I like my pics better on my hard drive, and I'm already busy too many hours with that stuff.
Title: Re: AutoPuzzles and Hemmings Motor News
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 10, 2008, 09:02:06 AM
What is "PM"? Don't forget I'm a frenchie, and besides I don't know (and don't care much to know) the meaning of many internet abreviations (LOL, BTW, IMHO and so on).
For the picture upload sites, sorry, I'm not to inclined to do it this way. I like my pics better on my hard drive, and I'm already busy too many hours with that stuff.

Understood. I think the pictures look fine in either location (top or bottom of post). Please keep them coming.