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Title: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on August 01, 2006, 04:12:39 AM
Any feedback on the project would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.autopuzzles.com/NTCP.htm

Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Stephen M on August 02, 2006, 09:02:35 PM
Seems like a massive, but worthwhile, undertaking.

Also, I may have spot blindness, but how do I get to the letters other than "A"? Lastly, what's the procedure for adding makes to the list? Reply in this thread? Or is there wiki-like functionality somewhere?
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on August 02, 2006, 09:03:32 PM
Quote from: Stephen M on August 02, 2006, 09:02:35 PM
Seems like a massive, but worthwhile, undertaking.

Also, I may have spot blindness, but how do I get to the letters other than "A"? Lastly, what's the procedure for adding makes to the list? Reply in this thread? Or is there wiki-like functionality somewhere?

Reply in this thread to add makes.

As Karn mentions in the introduction of the project, the makes are going up at a pace of one or two letters per monthly edition in order to ensure as much thouroghness as humanly possible and allow for feedback from people just like yourself.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Stephen M on August 02, 2006, 09:38:41 PM
All the "A" makes I could find in my books with non-zero production numbers are already included. May want to add that Aerobile was originally known as "Arrowbile".

Motorbase also lists Alexis with a production of 1 for the "Alexis GT". There's also Apal.....actually, before I go any further, is it safe to assume you've already included all the makes from motorbase that were up to standards?
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on August 02, 2006, 09:59:11 PM
Quote from: Stephen M on August 02, 2006, 09:38:41 PM
is it safe to assume you've already included all the makes from motorbase that were up to standards?

The Great Karnac will be by shortly with your answer.

The envelope please........
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 03, 2006, 12:09:58 AM
I did not use Motorbase as a reference. I found they have huge gaps, leaving their lists largely incomplete.

Ultra is correct; only "A" is included so far. Other letters have many fewer makes represented, so future additions could come in multiple letter bursts.

Please post additons here; I will incorporate them on an ongoing basis.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: roopull on August 10, 2006, 12:11:37 AM
Wow...  this truly is a huge undertaking.  As you probably have realized by now, Karn, my knowledge of autodom is but a speck compared to yours.  However, a little link that might help is conceptcarz.com.  Perhaps they'll have something you don't.

Good luck! (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/applause.gif)
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on August 10, 2006, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: roopull on August 10, 2006, 12:11:37 AM
Wow...  this truly is a huge undertaking.  As you probably have realized by now, Karn, my knowledge of autodom is but a speck compared to yours.  However, a little link that might help is conceptcarz.com.  Perhaps they'll have something you don't.

Good luck! (http://forums.snapstream.com/vb/images/smilies/applause.gif)

Thanks for the pointer, Roo.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: F(minus)1 on August 11, 2006, 01:15:34 PM
I'm a bit confused with the look of the final project. Will it consist of links to places that discuss (show pictures) of representative makes? Would be sorta cool if when hitting a link, it showed a picture of each known make/model and then subsequent links went to outside sites that had further discussions and pictures. This way, pictures are always maintained on this site and if a link should change, info. will still be captured. Also, it's nice to click on a link filled with tons of cool pictures. Also, would it be more informative to put the years of production in brackets next to the name? But then, that may not be your vision of things to come. Just wondering.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 11, 2006, 03:21:38 PM
All good suggestions - I'll incorporate what I can.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Arthur Dent on August 14, 2006, 12:06:37 PM
Link seems to go to a different article now. Anyway here is a rather nice list of Three Wheeler manufacters that would likely be useful.

http://www.3wheelers.com/azlist1.html
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 15, 2006, 04:20:22 AM
That's a great site - thanks!

I'll try to get some update in this weekend.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: F(minus)1 on August 21, 2006, 10:30:05 AM
Here is a nice Microcar site with a comprehensive list - if you don't already have this.

http://www.microcar.org/ourcars.html#u

Your link to your list on the home page is not working.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 21, 2006, 10:36:15 AM
Thanks!

I was perusing that site this weekend in a failed attempt to solve a "Stump the Chump".....er, Utz quiz.  ;D
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: roopull on August 25, 2006, 05:27:06 AM
Here's another source for you, Karn...  tons of names I've never even heard of with pics, links & info.  How's the list coming?


http://cartype.com/page.cfm?id=950&alph=ALL&dec=ALL
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on August 25, 2006, 06:19:56 AM
The list is coming along OK, but I may have bitten off more than I can chew! ;D

Thanks for the link!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: jotage21 on February 08, 2009, 07:59:44 AM
I can“t read the NTCP, the link goes to other page :(
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: faksta on February 08, 2009, 01:18:33 PM
Well, since I'm here.. I can't see it too. Is the project still alive?
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2009, 01:34:40 PM
Wow, I've never seen this place before!
That is exactly what I've been doing for years! I collected something like 5500 different makers, all from the past, with more than 40.000 different models and pictures! If I have to add the new ones, it will certainly double!
BTW I can't see it either...
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: faksta on February 08, 2009, 01:58:45 PM
Wow! You've already more than doubled my 2500+ makes pictured, with kind of an emphasis on competition cars... Of course it's yet in process, but.... I thought I have a big collection  :D
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on February 08, 2009, 02:05:57 PM
We need to get those collections online here at AutoPuzzles.

:nod:
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: faksta on February 08, 2009, 02:15:20 PM
It would take several years  ;D
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2009, 02:27:50 PM
I've also another project in progress, 4400 folders of different car makers with more than 200.000 pictures (and there are old cars, new, home made, one-off......) where I take (and where I put) all the puzzles.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Allemano on February 08, 2009, 02:44:48 PM
I think you must grow old....!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2009, 03:14:52 PM
It started 15 years ago, while I was at school. I made a short list of all the sports car (BMW , Ferrari, Lamborghini...). Then I said to myself, let's add also the sports car, GT and so on. I used a PC (it was an old McIntosh) and started a bigger list. I was collecdting magazines, so I took from there the cars. It crashes a lot of times. Every time I started again, including something more. At the end I start to put in this index all the cars in my magazines, and in the meantime my collection of books was increasing. Now I listed 40.000 models only from my books and few encyclopedias. I quit with the magazines after the Big Crash of '98! Now my magazines are thousands and I will start soon to add them in the index, because there are a lot of cars in small articles of my 1950's issues. I started collecting pictures from the web few years ago, but it was different, just a collection of weird cars. If I match the 5500 makers on my list with the 4400 of my folders, probably there are 7000 different makers! All this without considering the BIG books (like the Beaulieu Encyclopedia or the Standard Catalog) where there are thousands and thousands of entries! But I will add them all!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Allemano on February 08, 2009, 03:24:40 PM
My little archive can't compete with yours, but as I think of the horrible work to keep it well organized not to mention to build it up... Hold on!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: faksta on February 09, 2009, 02:02:51 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on February 08, 2009, 03:14:52 PM
It started 15 years ago, while I was at school. I made a short list of all the sports car (BMW , Ferrari, Lamborghini...). Then I said to myself, let's add also the sports car, GT and so on. I used a PC (it was an old McIntosh) and started a bigger list. I was collecdting magazines, so I took from there the cars. It crashes a lot of times. Every time I started again, including something more. At the end I start to put in this index all the cars in my magazines, and in the meantime my collection of books was increasing. Now I listed 40.000 models only from my books and few encyclopedias. I quit with the magazines after the Big Crash of '98! Now my magazines are thousands and I will start soon to add them in the index, because there are a lot of cars in small articles of my 1950's issues. I started collecting pictures from the web few years ago, but it was different, just a collection of weird cars. If I match the 5500 makers on my list with the 4400 of my folders, probably there are 7000 different makers! All this without considering the BIG books (like the Beaulieu Encyclopedia or the Standard Catalog) where there are thousands and thousands of entries! But I will add them all!

Damn that's impressive...
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: zaktoo on February 20, 2009, 05:58:08 AM
I did/do something very similar. Please feel free to use my work as a reference, you can find it at http://www.carfolio.com/

I know there are many gaps, but my aim is to catalogue the technical specs of every standard production car ever made, as well as coachbuilt bodies and official concepts and prototypes. Kit cars and modified cars are excluded.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on February 20, 2009, 06:12:53 AM
This subject seems to have some legs. 'Life events' prevented it from moving forward, way back when. But with all of these great folks working on it, I think it an achievable and worthy endeavor.

I'd be happy to organize everyone's content into a cohesive format. I'm open to ideas on format, etc.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on February 20, 2009, 06:32:02 AM
Quote from: zaktoo on February 20, 2009, 05:58:08 AM
I did/do something very similar. Please feel free to use my work as a reference, you can find it at http://www.carfolio.com/

I know there are many gaps, but my aim is to catalogue the technical specs of every standard production car ever made, as well as coachbuilt bodies and official concepts and prototypes. Kit cars and modified cars are excluded.

Thank you very much!
I know your site very well, (who doesn't?) and I spent a lot of time in it!
My work started as a simple index, because sometimes I'm looking for a precise car, I know I've got somewhere but I'm not able to locate it. In my index there are all the cars, racing, prototypes, one-off, concepts, kit-cars, buggy, that are featured in any of my books-magazines-encyclopedias. When I'll finish this (NEVER!) I'll fill in the gaps, with the cars that I know they exists but aren't in any of my books (like a lot of the cars from Autopuzzles!).
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 07, 2009, 09:40:12 AM
The link is not working anymore....
I'd like to see that index, and I will check my A list  (900 makers) with it...we can make the biggest list ever!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 08, 2009, 01:18:37 PM
What about here?
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on December 08, 2009, 01:45:27 PM
This is the group to get this done. 
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2009, 11:02:04 PM
I believe this conversation is on how to make a gigantic, but rather complete encyclopedia on the web. In a few weeks' time I will see how my 2010 shapes up and then I'll be happy to discuss this project further, as this type of encyclopedia would be my childhood dream coming true.

In the meantime:
- would this project be a part of AutoPuzzles or would it be a separate project? Like worldcar-catalog.com, worldcarinfo.com - I have some domain names which will we can use from next year
- Who'd do the background programming work? Ultra or someone else?

Sometimes I can't stop myself thinking about various projects and this morning, it was 'bout this one. It could be a real nice resource, with photos, sources (indication of magazine article, website etc.) and a keen eye on protecting copyrights.

Let's hear some feedbacks :)
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2009, 08:00:37 AM
Pnegyesi, you read my mind.
I did not only dreamt of it, I actually started doing my little part to have it done more than 10\15 years ago:
I started with all my books and magazines, and I sorted all the manufacturers, with the models and tech spec in a huge list. This list is growing of hundreds (hundreds!) of makers per week, and it is now at about 7400 makers, but they are mostly old ones: I still have no books covering modern cars, and I'm sorting magazines starting from the 50s.
I am aslo collecting pictures, of each vehicle can be considered like that, homebuilt, one-off and so on.
I have kept the link to the book or magazine article of each and every model I listed there.
My final dream will be to match this index of all the cars featured in my papers with the folders I have with all the pictures plus the amount of knowledge that is here!
The boring part is already done (I mean the list of the well-known, known, less-known and barely-known manufacture is ready) and now each one can try to add what he could!
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Ultra on December 09, 2009, 09:09:15 AM
Start by compiling a list, guys.  We can do this and I will do whatever I can to make it part of this group's lore.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Otto Puzzell on December 09, 2009, 09:46:00 AM
I'm more than happy to index and format the info.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on December 09, 2009, 09:54:15 AM
I have a list.
When we started to talk about this project, I focused on the 'A' list, adding all I have...
I can upload this first part of the 'A' list (From "AAA" till "Arrow Locomotor") when you tell me where and how.
I don't think it is useful that each one of us start a list by his own...let's make a common one and add what's missing.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: jotage21 on April 18, 2011, 09:24:12 PM
Any news about this Project? I have a list with 30,000 cars, sorted by country, that I think that could be useful to the project.
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 19, 2011, 05:16:28 PM
I'm still working on my index (http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10302.0;viewResults)...
Title: Re: The Name The Cars Project
Post by: DeAutogids on May 13, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
My list is far from complete. But at least I am aware of it. Since 1997 or thereabouts I have been busy trying to build this in one way or another. Amazing how much information is not on the internet (in 1997, at least where I am from, we said the internet) and how little of that has changed.

But feel free to use my list freely. There might be a name or two in there that you might not have not yet listed.

(and if you really have time to spare, you can tell me the mistakes I made in the ones that are there)