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2010 Monaco GP

Started by Ultra, May 09, 2010, 10:28:32 PM

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Ultra

Another track lacking passing.  Vettel for pole and win.  MS continues to look better but Nico and he are about even for pace. 

Unless it rains.....

Then all bets are off.

I hate this part of the season.  No passing.  No excitement.  It seems like boredom till Spa.
"Honi soit qui mal y pense"


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Bezor

I guess it's from the few years I autocrossed, but I really like Monaco.

Ultra

Quote from: Bezor on May 10, 2010, 12:27:08 AM
I guess it's from the few years I autocrossed, but I really like Monaco.

I like everything about it except for the procession on the track.
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Allan L

At Monaco more depends on the drivers' talent that at Tilkedromes and others where they can use the wide-open spaces when they misjudge something.

Overtaking is not a modern phenomenon at any track (e.g. at Barcelona yesterday there was some, but when cars had only a silght speed difference they stayed as they were for days!) and I still like to see the prima-donna drivers being out-foxed by those who know how to do it - and at Monaco in particular where there is no marging for error.

Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Ultra

Alonso looked good in both practices.  The nature of this track should make qualifying on Sat the highlight of the weekend and the outcome of the race is likely all but decided then as well.
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MG

Well, Michael demonstrated a few years ago that you CAN pass at Monaco at the chicane exiting the Loews Tunnel. IF you are willing to push your own brother off into the marbles!    :o

That being said, Monaco DOES have an aura about it that transcends mere racing. Every great driver in history has competed there and the stories of the epic battles that have occurred on its streets are legion.

I heard on TV recently a little anecdote about the man who was the traditional waver of the green flag at the start of the race. Mario Andretti asked him before the race if he would throw a quick flag or a slow flag. He replied: "When I see your car move, THEN I will wave the green flag, Mario!"

You don't get stories like that at just any track!    ;D

And so I am willing to excuse the relative lack of passing there just because it IS Monaco. I do not feel so charitable about the Hungaroring, for example.  {BOOOORRRR ing} ::)
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Ultra

Quote from: MG on May 14, 2010, 06:31:32 PM
Well, Michael demonstrated a few years ago that you CAN pass at Monaco at the chicane exiting the Loews Tunnel. IF you are willing to push your own brother off into the marbles!    :o

That being said, Monaco DOES have an aura about it that transcends mere racing. Every great driver in history has competed there and the stories of the epic battles that have occurred on its streets are legion.

I heard on TV recently a little anecdote about the man who was the traditional waver of the green flag at the start of the race. Mario Andretti asked him before the race if he would throw a quick flag or a slow flag. He replied: "When I see your car move, THEN I will wave the green flag, Mario!"

You don't get stories like that at just any track!    ;D

And so I am willing to excuse the relative lack of passing there just because it IS Monaco. I do not feel so charitable about the Hungaroring, for example.  {BOOOORRRR ing} ::)

I feel you.
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Ultra

Kubica will definitely be in red with performances like these. 
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Bezor

Nice shake up with Kubica.  Webbo showing he can do medium speed and low speed tracks.  Poor Alonso, however, his push for position will make for a good subplot to the race.  Massa put the SWB to use.

If there is anything missing from the T.V. coverage is women in their behinees.  I want to see some skin, damnit.

faksta

I was hoping for two things to happen in quali: Kubica on pole and Kovalainen in Q2. Sadly, none happened, although both were very close to the target. Let's see what the race brings...

Paul Jaray

Now it's the right time to send you curriculum vitae to the Mc Laren team...

MG

Can't wait to see what the stewards, with the assistance of Damon Hill, think of MS's stupid and typically "I care not for any rules for I am 7 time world champion Michael Schumacher" pass on Alonso at the last corner. Hopefully, they will at LEAST set him back to 7th. Better yet, assess him a 30 second penalty. Better YET, that plus a 10 grid spot penalty in Turkey. Or best of all, DSQ the smarmy son of a bitch.  How I detest Michael.    :yuck:

Fabulous weekend for Webber. Jack Brabham would be proud!   :applause:
Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the number of moments that take your breath away!

Ultra

Twas a bit of procession. Webber firms up his championship intentions. MS gets what he deserves. Pretty satisfying overall.
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MG

This is how a stay at home journalist I hold in the highest esteem saw the race.

Webber Rules In Monaco
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faksta

Quote from: MG on May 16, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
Can't wait to see what the stewards, with the assistance of Damon Hill, think of MS's stupid and typically "I care not for any rules for I am 7 time world champion Michael Schumacher" pass on Alonso at the last corner. Hopefully, they will at LEAST set him back to 7th. Better yet, assess him a 30 second penalty. Better YET, that plus a 10 grid spot penalty in Turkey. Or best of all, DSQ the smarmy son of a bitch.  How I detest Michael.    :yuck:

Fabulous weekend for Webber. Jack Brabham would be proud!   :applause:

That was actually within the rules as far as i understand - it was the very last lap, and there's an excuse for this, I guess...

MG

NOT within the rules, at least according to the stewards. 20 second penalty assessed. Dropped MS to 12th.    :nana:

I am sorry to say, Faksta, that Vitaly Petrov is not showing well in F1. He looks like he should be in GP2. Too many crashes.  :-\
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Quote from: MG on May 16, 2010, 07:31:36 PM
NOT within the rules, at least according to the stewards. 20 second penalty assessed. Dropped MS to 12th.    :nana:

I am sorry to say, Faksta, that Vitaly Petrov is not showing well in F1. He looks like he should be in GP2. Too many crashes.  :-\
Many rookies crash cars the first year to be very much a winner the next year. Not saying he is doing that, just saying it happens.
As for Michael Schumacher:

There 2 rules contradicting.
The problem is that if you get the messsage that the safety car goes in the last lap, but you see yellow flags, you cannot overtake. Problem is: They showed green flags. Which means: safe to overtake.

MG

Ah, racing by lawyer!  I love it!    :hah:

I have read Ross Brawn's explanation. I know he believes it, but I think the sporting reg is clear enough, although Race Control  COULD have done a better job of clarifying the situation for the teams. So there is fault all around.

But Michael is still an egg sucking self absorbed jerk. Always was. Always will be.    :yuck:

As for Petrov, you think I am being too hard on the lad? Perhaps so. I seem to remember that Alguersuari was all over the road when he jumped into the cockpit too.
But he tended to hit other people. At least Petrov just does it to himself and doesn't take others with him. So I will reassess my position on him. He is "C" driver, not a C- as I had thought!    ;D
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Allemano

Quote from: MG on May 17, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
But Michael is still an egg sucking self absorbed jerk. Always was. Always will be.    :yuck:
I'm not a friend of him either but you're going way over the top! At least he won his seven world championships not only with bad habits!

Ultra

MG over the top?!

What else is new?
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DeAutogids.nl

Quote from: MG on May 17, 2010, 10:20:28 AM
Ah, racing by lawyer!  I love it!    :hah:

I have read Ross Brawn's explanation. I know he believes it, but I think the sporting reg is clear enough, although Race Control  COULD have done a better job of clarifying the situation for the teams. So there is fault all around.

But Michael is still an egg sucking self absorbed jerk. Always was. Always will be.    :yuck:

As for Petrov, you think I am being too hard on the lad? Perhaps so. I seem to remember that Alguersuari was all over the road when he jumped into the cockpit too.
But he tended to hit other people. At least Petrov just does it to himself and doesn't take others with him. So I will reassess my position on him. He is "C" driver, not a C- as I had thought!    ;D
There are rules everywhere. Suppose you don't stop for red lights and overtake in blind corners?

Otto Puzzell

Quote from: MG on May 16, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
Can't wait to see what the stewards, with the assistance of Damon Hill, think of MS's stupid and typically "I care not for any rules for I am 7 time world champion Michael Schumacher" pass on Alonso at the last corner. Hopefully, they will at LEAST set him back to 7th. Better yet, assess him a 30 second penalty. Better YET, that plus a 10 grid spot penalty in Turkey. Or best of all, DSQ the smarmy son of a bitch.  How I detest Michael.    :yuck:

Fabulous weekend for Webber. Jack Brabham would be proud!   :applause:

Wow - 1 ill-adivsed pass at the end of a safety-car parade lap cements MS' status as the Antichrist!

The 20-second penalty assessed is more than enough. It put's things right again in another context, as the "built for Schumi" LWB Mercedes gave spoonface the unfair advantage at Monaco (which favors LWB, right?) that allowed him to run ahead of his teammate.

If Al or Hambone had done the same thing, some would chalk it up to the red mist or passion.
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Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 18, 2010, 08:36:12 AM
Quote from: MG on May 16, 2010, 11:33:23 AM
Can't wait to see what the stewards, with the assistance of Damon Hill, think of MS's stupid and typically "I care not for any rules for I am 7 time world champion Michael Schumacher" pass on Alonso at the last corner. Hopefully, they will at LEAST set him back to 7th. Better yet, assess him a 30 second penalty. Better YET, that plus a 10 grid spot penalty in Turkey. Or best of all, DSQ the smarmy son of a bitch.  How I detest Michael.    :yuck:

Fabulous weekend for Webber. Jack Brabham would be proud!   :applause:

Wow - 1 ill-adivsed pass at the end of a safety-car parade lap cements MS' status as the Antichrist!

The 20-second penalty assessed is more than enough. It put's things right again in another context, as the "built for Schumi" LWB Mercedes gave spoonface the unfair advantage at Monaco (which favors LWB, right?) that allowed him to run ahead of his teammate.

If Al or Hambone had done the same thing, some would chalk it up to the red mist or passion.
Favours SWB...

Otto Puzzell

I was being sarcastic.
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DeAutogids.nl

Quote from: Otto Puzzell on May 18, 2010, 08:42:43 AM
I was being sarcastic.
I didn't see the sarcastic smiley. Being sarcastic here. Sorry, on fora it is difficult to see sarcasm.