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Title: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 13, 2016, 12:03:06 PM
I haven't completed the title of this thread with "2016" because I thought it could be used in future years for any AP member to post personal accounts or photos after their visit.

I went this year for the first time. I would have gone in past years, but I have to fly there, and the total cost this year including car hire, hotel and meals, the purchase of suitable period clothing, etc. came to over £900. I could have gone to the Caribbean for that! Not for nothing am I known as Scrooge by my associates.

I can't even provide decent photos. My only digital camera is a little pocket Sony with useless focal length and no shutter speed options. I was hoping to at least get pictures of interesting cars in the "village" area but the crowds were too dense. The optimum photo opportunity would be in the paddock, but access is not possible without being a GRRC member, for which there is a 6-year waiting list (and a charge of £210!), although I understand that threats of violence (seriously and sadly true) resulted in some spectators achieving this objective. Not my MO, what with me being a frail 65-year old.

Humidity on Friday meant I took off my cap and got sunburn, Saturday had unceasing rain which made standing by the rails an uncomfortable affair, and Sunday was scorching hot -  not really the right weather for a Tweed jacket. The whole event has now become a well-oiled operation, and my only niggles were that the car parks had no numbered/lettered posts so that it was difficult to find your car (senility rules!), collapsible chairs weren't available for hire or purchase, and grandstand seats which had not been previously sold, were not available to buy "on the day". These last two things are a case of Goodwood losing out on selling opportunities. There's cash to be made, and they're missing out.

The whole thing is simply wonderful. I'll be the first person to moan a bit about authenticity of some (or probably most) of the cars, and whether the events are really "period", and about the need for the attractions which are a bit naff - the 1966 World Cup celebration for example.Personally I think the meeting stands up by itself, and doesn't need all this extra stuff, but it probably entertains the visitors who come for the atmosphere and for the chance to dress up for the day. I saw 4 monks, a half-dozen adult schoolboys, a golfer in Argyle socks complete with a golf club (why???), but also some very attractive ladies who looked simply magnificent in their frocks and hats. I must have a mummy complex.......

I know that one of our members is on the "team" at Goodwood - I'm wondering whether we could get a party of AP members together to meet up for the weekend next year, and whether (whisper it quietly) that certain member could arrange for us to visit the paddock on the infield. Just a thought.......

If anyone else was there this year, feel free to post your thoughts and recollections. My biggest memory? - the sound of Joe Colasacco's Ferrari 1512 mixed in amongst the Climax and BRM engines. Holy Noise Abatement, Batman!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Carnut on September 14, 2016, 04:57:08 AM
Count me In for 2017!
I haven't been for many years but when I did go it was absolutely fantastic and I promised myself I would go as often as possible, a promise I have clearly broken!
Life is too short not to go!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Allan L on September 14, 2016, 07:01:01 AM
In period I always found Goodwood too far to go for the day so never went. The nearest I've got to the Revival was the first one, which truly was intended to be a Revival of the 1950s Goodwood meetings and as that included handicap races there was a real chance I'd be needed, as there was probably a need for two Handicappers.
In the event Robin Birchall had to cope on his own as it was still too far for a day trip!
I should probably make the effort as racing real cars that were designed to be raced is what I approve of - as David Black said to the inept commentator who'd asked if he was worried racing the historic car (Alfa Romeo P3) he'd just won a Silverstone race in "Of course not. It's what they're for. No use just sitting and looking at 'em, is it?"
Age and the tight-fistedness of Yorkshire ancestry will probably keep me away as there is too much dressing-up/out of period saloon cars/showmanship that I don't want to pay extra for.
Oh are there still a lot of the fancy-dressers in military uniforms? We who were young in the 1950s remember that our National Service mates (a) couldn't wait to get out of uniform when on leave and (b) were not supposed to wear uniform off-duty anyway (but usually did when hitch-hiking home to cash in on the sympathy of passing motorists).
Good job some of us don't share my disdain
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 14, 2016, 08:03:34 AM
Don't worry Allan, I do share it - it's just still too much of a draw for me.

There was much less fancy-dress than I expected, but still too much. I don't mind WW2 RAF uniform because Lord March is happy enough for the occasion to reflect the history of the estate, but what the heck US Army outfits are doing there is beyond me. Ditto airline pilots, a group of men dressed as Tommy Cooper, someone dressed as Steve McQueen (or maybe he did race at Goodwood - I know he raced at Brands) and others I've previously mentioned.

I really don't even understand why the organisers feel the need for the actors in their rather embarassing guises as entertainment. I find it naff, and completely unnecessary. I suppose so many of the spectators are there simply for the outing and have little interest in watching the racing. It's what pays for the upkeep of the estate, when all is said and done, and to some extent we oldies could be accused of elitism, wishing it was just "for us" when we hear the visitors professing a complete lack of knowledge about what they're watching.

I believe the Silverstone Classic is more suited to enthusiasts, but somehow I quite liked donning my "sporting gentleman" attire and not looking out of place. Having said which, I agree that even those who had made an effort had misunderstood what people actually wore back then - the vast majority of men would have been in a plain white shirt and some grey bags, and the women would not have looked like they'd just come from the catwalk. Perhaps the organisers could print on the tickets that they reserve the right to decline entry if the ticketholder turns up looking like a pr*t!

As for the cars, I couldn't agree more. It's the difference between racing historic cars, and racing cars in the historic manner. How many did I see that were truly original and "in period"? Brian Redman's Red Rose E-type was there, driven by a very capable racer, but it was way down the field - in period it would only have been beaten by another E-type from Coombs or Sopwith. Some entrants want to win at all costs. (I see Adrian Newey wasn't there this year - I won't say any more for fear of litigation).

I would like to see a TT renactment as it used to be - classes for all types, with Porsche Carrera, Elite, Turner, MGA etc.. Some hope, because there are too many Cobras in the world. Plus a saloon car race on period wheels and suspension, with smaller cars being lapped rather than winning in improbable manner. Maybe an Edwardian handicap, with Kris Kringle driving a Mors!

Anyway, thanks for the input.  I share your general feelings, but couldn't keep away. Nor apparently, could many people from the Continent - I heard lots of German, Dutch, French and Italian spoken. I followed a German-registered Porsche 918 Spyder out of the carpark on the wet Saturday which had way too much power for the mud - that's a brave choice for visiting the UK. I also stood close to a couple of Eastern European thugs dressed in modern black clothing who looked so out-of-place it was painful. There was much breaking and entering on the campsites - I wonder who it could have been?

Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Iluvatar on September 14, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
The Revival is one of my dreams since I entered the classic car world. Every year the budget is too low, but I hope to be able to go there someday...
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Paul Jaray on September 14, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: Iluvatar on September 14, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
The Revival is one of my dreams since I entered the classic car world. Every year the budget is too low, but I hope to be able to go there someday...
+1
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 14, 2016, 01:51:32 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on September 14, 2016, 12:32:07 PM
Quote from: Iluvatar on September 14, 2016, 10:18:53 AM
The Revival is one of my dreams since I entered the classic car world. Every year the budget is too low, but I hope to be able to go there someday...
+1

It is indeed an expensive trip if you live on the Continent because of the travel costs. In addition, it's hardly worth coming over for one day, so there's the added cost of tickets for 3 days, and hotel bills unless you have friends to stay with.

It was the same for me. Living in Northern Ireland meant extensive travel - it's cheaper to fly and hire a car than use the ferry for my own car. Crazy. I just dusted down my wallet, tried to remember the combination for the lock, and bit the bullet. I could do it cheaper next time - I learned lessons the hard way this year.

The whole event is not always going to be to everyone's taste. Allan Lupton made some good points, and I agree with him on most of them, but all the same I can't think of anywhere else I'd rather waste my money. I tried women, and they were even more expensive! I really hope the meeting doesn't get any more commercialised than it now is, as it has already veered away from what I believe was first planned. At the end of the day, Lord March has to make it pay for itself, and if that means offering entertainment which mildly annoys purists like myself, then so be it. I accept that he has bills to pay.

Now, I wouldn't mind going to Laguna Seca, but that'd be a massive expense, and a lot of the cars would be restored "American Style" which isn't really to my taste. Goodwood is excellent, if you accept it for what it has to be.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Allan L on September 14, 2016, 06:08:01 PM
As those of us who meet in another place will have seen, there are some who live in Canada and the US who visit one or other of the Goodwood events and that'd be a lot of money.
I've just seen a bit of Goodwood on TV and we were shown the actors and their costume store which is another aspect I prefer not to have to pay for.  A perfectly respectible racing driver, Dario Franchetti, doing the presenting seemed to have been briefed to tell us every couple of minutes something about the huge "value" of the motorcars being raced.
Last night there was a TV programme on the history of the Goodwood estate and we saw clips of 1950s racing as well as recent stuff. The period footage showed how it looked then of course.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 15, 2016, 04:42:55 AM
There's a quite interesting post on another website, which I shall refer to as T** T**ths, which had me chiuckling. One point the poster made was that hiring guest drivers made for unequal driving standards. I'll be the first to admit that some of the gentleman owner/drivers are a bit dangerous with their lack of pace and spatial "unawareness", but fair does to them for showing us their lovely cars and risking them in that way. However, I also believe that some of the regular drivers at historic meetings are as good as, if not better, than many of the BTCC guys who turned up this year. They aren't interested in furthering their careers in more modern machinery, but anyone who saw Simon Hadfield in the Project Aston in the wet a couple of years ago, will know what I mean. Having professionals in a race doesn't automatically make them the best drivers in that race.

The other comment made in the post was the FB page of Goodwood and its video content, which apparently consists of all the crashes and near-misses. This is akin to BTCC racing and gives the wrong impression of the event, and might attract the wrong sort of spectator. Or so the comment implies. We all know who's in charge of PR at Goodwood  ;D.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Iluvatar on September 16, 2016, 09:30:19 AM
Quote from: nicanary on September 15, 2016, 04:42:55 AMThe other comment made in the post was the FB page of Goodwood and its video content, which apparently consists of all the crashes and near-misses. This is akin to BTCC racing and gives the wrong impression of the event, and might attract the wrong sort of spectator. Or so the comment implies. We all know who's in charge of PR at Goodwood  ;D.
I'm too disappointed by the view they are giving of the event, with a major focus on every single crash and damage... in the previous years I had the impression that on the live stream they used to hide the big crashes, now looks like they are trying to attract more people by highlighting the "bad" side of the event.
I approve and enjoy classic car racing, crashes are a normal "side effect", but they are not the most important think at all. Nobody wants them!

Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Iluvatar on September 16, 2016, 09:34:36 AM
Quote from: nicanary on September 15, 2016, 04:42:55 AM
There's a quite interesting post on another website, which I shall refer to as T** T**ths, which had me chiuckling. One point the poster made was that hiring guest drivers made for unequal driving standards. I'll be the first to admit that some of the gentleman owner/drivers are a bit dangerous with their lack of pace and spatial "unawareness", but fair does to them for showing us their lovely cars and risking them in that way. However, I also believe that some of the regular drivers at historic meetings are as good as, if not better, than many of the BTCC guys who turned up this year. They aren't interested in furthering their careers in more modern machinery, but anyone who saw Simon Hadfield in the Project Aston in the wet a couple of years ago, will know what I mean. Having professionals in a race doesn't automatically make them the best drivers in that race.
The different performances of cars and drivers is sometime disturbing, with the first bunch of cars passing the slower ones just after 2 or 3 laps... but there is no solution to this, someone wants to race, someone else just want to run in the Goodwood Revival... and we love to see a huge starting grid!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 16, 2016, 11:03:22 AM
I agree with your comments. The only solution would be for the organisers to persuade the owners of the invited cars to allow faster drivers to actually race in the event. I can't see many of them wanting to do this - they just enjoy the race even if they're lapped a few times.

As for the crash video - sadly the Revival has now become such a big occasion that it attracts all sorts of people who would not normally follow motor racing. I say "sadly" becuase I'm old-fashioned and would prefer the meeting to be restricted to spectators who are passionate about historic race cars. Thius cannot happen, because the huge crowds which attend the Revival and Festival of Speed ensure that Lord March can pay for the upkeep of the Goodwood Estate, and good luck to him. I think it's only fair. Thus the video is of the kind which will appeal to a mass audience, and maybe attract more of the same next year.

It's all a case of balance. The organisers have to provide a little bit of everything to cover all tastes.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Carnut on September 21, 2016, 06:28:46 PM
I have, in the past, jokingly suggested that there is a questionnaire at the entrance and if visitors don't score more than 90% they aren't allowed in...!
That was after I was standing next to a couple of blokes at the NEC Classic Car Show and one of them said to the other "I think that's a Dino; wasn't it made by Ferrari?" and the other one replied "Dunno"...  The event is packed and it's hard to really see much on some days, but it's not packed with enthusiasts, just Brummies having a day out!
You could say the same thing about the Revival, although I would have thought it's so expensive that only true enthusiasts would pay so much to attend..  And of course the organisers of all these events need every penny they can get.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 22, 2016, 04:18:50 AM
Quote from: Carnut on September 21, 2016, 06:28:46 PM
I have, in the past, jokingly suggested that there is a questionnaire at the entrance and if visitors don't score more than 90% they aren't allowed in...!
That was after I was standing next to a couple of blokes at the NEC Classic Car Show and one of them said to the other "I think that's a Dino; wasn't it made by Ferrari?" and the other one replied "Dunno"...  The event is packed and it's hard to really see much on some days, but it's not packed with enthusiasts, just Brummies having a day out!
You could say the same thing about the Revival, although I would have thought it's so expensive that only true enthusiasts would pay so much to attend..  And of course the organisers of all these events need every penny they can get.

Well observed.

It's my belief that attending the Revival has become part of "The Season"- that vague collection of events at which one must "be seen". Henley, Ascot, Wimbledon etc.. I'm not saying that everyone at Goodwood is not a fan of old racing cars, but I reckon about 10/15% of spectators are there for the social occasion. They are the ones dressed impeccably who wander all day around the Village and stands, frequenting the bars and refreshment stalls, and engaging in idle chit-chat with others of their ilk. They quite probably gain access to the paddock because they know Freddy March or one of the mega-wealthy car entrants, but they haven't a clue what they're looking at.

Like yourself, I'm not suggesting that this is a bad thing. All income for the Estate is welcome, and they're doing no harm. Having said that, the place is packed to capacity and it's so frustrating for real enthusiasts trying to get a decent look at the exhibits. I think most historic racing fans now look upon the Revival as a bit different from the other meetings in the UK and indeed in other countries. They accept that it's something that attracts "outsiders" - you either attend, or you don't. Personal choice. It's quite interesting to read the comments on other websites which cater for the historic brigade - it's clear that some still can't understand what has happened to the Revival, and want it back to what they consider to be acceptable. Others just "go with the flow".

I loved it, because although I was a "newbie" I knew what to expect. Whether or not we get a mass AP attendance next year, I'm having a word with "that certain AP member" about getting access to the paddock !

PS Actually I didn't mind too much about the hordes of poseurs strolling around the Village - some of the women were absolutely stunning! Is that a bit politically incorrect? If Sir Stirling can call them popsies, so can I........
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on October 30, 2016, 03:51:07 AM
I am going to Goodwood next year (gave it a miss this year).

For cheap accommodation get in touch with Chichester University cost £55 per night (in 2015) which wasn't bad - don't expect luxury but it is cheap and a good breakfast is served.

Secondly it only costs a little more (relatively) but get the roving grandstand tickets - after a day of exploring it is good to sit down...

Personally having been to both FoS and Revival I much prefer the revival as hill climbs are boring to watch!!!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Oguerrerob on October 30, 2016, 04:50:50 AM
Those who have been at the Goodwood Revival must have pictures of the event. The entrance monument I've seen in the web, built every year, looks very impressive. It would be nice for who hasn't gone there to watch them. At least, I'll thank you. :)
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on October 30, 2016, 07:48:54 AM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on October 30, 2016, 04:50:50 AM
Those who have been at the Goodwood Revival must have pictures of the event. The entrance monument I've seen in the web, built every year, looks very impressive. It would be nice for who hasn't gone there to watch them. At least, I'll thank you. :)

I think you are referring to the "car sculpture" built every year in the grounds of Goodwood House. This is erected for the Festival of Speed meeting, not the Revival. I've never attended this event, but maybe another AP member will have some images.

I'm afraid I also don't have any photos of the Revival. You need a fairly large camera and lens to obtain good images of the racing, and I don't want to have to carry those around with me. I get tired just standing and watching! As I have already posted, I took a pocket camera with me, but the crowds mean you don't get much of a chance to get a decent shot of the static exhibits.

Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on October 31, 2016, 07:36:20 AM
Quote from: gilescooperuk on October 30, 2016, 03:51:07 AM
I am going to Goodwood next year (gave it a miss this year).

For cheap accommodation get in touch with Chichester University cost £55 per night (in 2015) which wasn't bad - don't expect luxury but it is cheap and a good breakfast is served.

Secondly it only costs a little more (relatively) but get the roving grandstand tickets - after a day of exploring it is good to sit down...

Personally having been to both FoS and Revival I much prefer the revival as hill climbs are boring to watch!!!

That's very useful information, thanks for that. I flew from Ulster to Southampton this year, and stayed at a hotel in the airport grounds, which was close to the motorway. I assumed that hotels nearer to Chichester would be very expensive and probably booked to capacity.

I think I'd better get this accomodation booked ASAP! I agree about the grandstand. It wasn't so much the weather that caused me problems, but fatigue from standing on my feet all day. Next year I'll tackle the whole thing with the knowledge of hindsight.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on October 31, 2016, 08:44:14 AM
Well I would wait until the tickets go on sale before booking, I booked around January and didn't have a problem but I am on the notification list for this year.

The evening races are good as the grandstands are quiet (most people have gone) and it is easy to get a good seat...
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on November 02, 2016, 03:24:15 AM
http://www.chi.ac.uk/enterprise-and-employers/conference-services/offers-and-events (http://www.chi.ac.uk/enterprise-and-employers/conference-services/offers-and-events)

It looks like £53 per night is the current price
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on February 08, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
Just as an update, Chichester university are only selling a min of 2 nights accommodation and that is going quickly. If you want a single night it you have to go on a reserve list.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on February 09, 2017, 04:17:59 AM
Quote from: gilescooperuk on February 08, 2017, 05:21:06 PM
Just as an update, Chichester university are only selling a min of 2 nights accommodation and that is going quickly. If you want a single night it you have to go on a reserve list.

Thanks for keeping us up to date. Much appreciated. (Mine's been booked for some time now!)
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on March 27, 2018, 08:26:00 AM
I'm already sorted for this year, but just for the information of other members I would suggest they investigate Airbnb for possible accomodation.

My daughter and her fiance are coming with me this year, and we have booked a house in Havant for a grand total of £300 including charges, for 3 nights. Clearly the owner has no idea of the hotel prices for the Goodwood area during the Revival meeting.

Book early before the "hosts" wake up to their folly.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on August 09, 2018, 04:47:49 AM
I've just received a call-up for jury service for 4 weeks commencing Sept 3 2018. They can forget that!

I'm putting in an excuse for absence, and failing that I'll pay the £1000 fine. Inconsiderate b**tards.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: D-type on August 12, 2018, 04:08:17 AM
I'm told that the best trick is to write saying something like "Although I am not a member of the National Front  (or other extremist party) I do sympathise with some of their views and I feel that I could not be totally unbiased if I were on the jury of a case with a "black" defendant.  Would it be possible to ensure that I am only allocated to cases with a white defendant?"  or  "I had a good friend who was killed in the London bombings (pick your atrocity) and I feel  . . . Muslim defendant"
Faced with that they can't risk a defence counsel getting hold of the letter.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on August 12, 2018, 06:36:50 AM
Quote from: D-type on August 12, 2018, 04:08:17 AM
I'm told that the best trick is to write saying something like "Although I am not a member of the National Front  (or other extremist party) I do sympathise with some of their views and I feel that I could not be totally unbiased if I were on the jury of a case with a "black" defendant.  Would it be possible to ensure that I am only allocated to cases with a white defendant?"  or  "I had a good friend who was killed in the London bombings (pick your atrocity) and I feel  . . . Muslim defendant"
Faced with that they can't risk a defence counsel getting hold of the letter.

Thanks for your guide to "The Art of Coarse Jury Excuse".  ;D. PM sent.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 04, 2018, 08:47:09 AM
The time approaches. For once the weather looks set fair - here's hoping!

I'm being accompanied this year by family members, so that will inhibit my chances of meeting other Autopuzzles members. I know carnut is not going, and Djetset has probably changed his phone number since meeting me last year  ;D. If anyone reading this would like to meet up, please by all means drop me a PM.

I'm excused jury service for the rest of this week.  I'm exempt in 2 years' time anyway - what a farce from the land of the Magna Carta.

No JD Classics this year, for intriguing reasons. Hence no Jenson Button - I reckon he would have been pretty good at adapting to historic cars, he's a very "natural" driver. I hope Chris Ward can cadge a drive with another entrant.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 11, 2018, 04:29:20 PM
Entrants in the Sussex Trophy. Please ignore the numbers in brackets after the car's identity - posting problems!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 13, 2018, 06:01:48 AM
Some photos taken by my daughter on her mobile phone - I've had to resize them so they are not of the best quality.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 13, 2018, 06:11:57 AM
More of the same......
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 13, 2018, 06:16:17 AM
Anyone spot my deliberate error?  I referred to my programme rather than actually look at the photo - the "Tojeiro-Jaguar" is in fact a Cooper-Jaguar T33.  The owner must have substituted cars for their race entry.

Sorry folks.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 04, 2019, 05:03:42 AM
For various personal reasons I am unable to attend the Revival this year. If any Autopuzzles member is going, please post your pictures here. I'd love to see them and see what I missed.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on September 04, 2019, 12:44:09 PM
I am going Friday and Saturday this year, anyone else making the journey down - Gary (djetset) obviously but anyone else?
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on June 16, 2020, 08:54:14 AM
I've just heard that the Revival 2020 has been cancelled for fairly obvious reasons. After missing last year I had really looked forward to this year's. Now I've got more time to save for the considerable cost.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: gilescooperuk on June 16, 2020, 08:59:31 AM
Not unexpected - however www.goodwood.com will still let you book tickets for the revival?

Mind you the club (East Anglian Tiger Owners Club or EATOC) I run took the decision last night to cancel all planned events for the rest of the year - there are supposedly some shows going ahead but I am not sure who will go or if they are even on still....
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on June 16, 2020, 10:56:38 AM
Quote from: gilescooperuk on June 16, 2020, 08:59:31 AM
Not unexpected - however www.goodwood.com will still let you book tickets for the revival?

Mind you the club (East Anglian Tiger Owners Club or EATOC) I run took the decision last night to cancel all planned events for the rest of the year - there are supposedly some shows going ahead but I am not sure who will go or if they are even on still....

I suppose the estate needs all the cash it can generate. They'll issue tickets for this year and allow them to roll over to 2021. Better than no income at all.  I got my info from GRRC members who'd been advised by e-mail. No doubt the decision will be made public in due course.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 23, 2021, 11:40:31 AM
This year's event was a real relief after the pandemic. Everything back to normal - all's well with the world. I know the ethos of the Revival is not to everyone's taste, but I just love the experience. I can do without some of the theatrical additions but I'm prepared to endure them, and some of the less knowledgeable spectators in the crowd who have spent a lot of money yet don't seem to understand what they're watching. If their cash helps save the event, I must stop being a snob.

Great weather, a real late English summer. Bit of rain on Sunday, but not enough to create mud in the car parks. Plus I managed to contact our own missing Djetset, and enjoyed a splendid lunch break in his company. Pity I got the times of my flights all wrong, and turned up too late at the airport. Old age. I'll post a few photos in due course, all taken on my tiny pocket Sony, so don't expect too much.

PS Delay in photos. My RAM is full.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 24, 2021, 11:14:13 AM
One of 3 Spifires which took part in air displays, often flying wingtip to wingtip. I could not get close enough to photograph Miss Shilling's orifice.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 24, 2021, 11:21:05 AM
Three vehicles which were on display close to Djetset's office. Delightful BMW 700 Rennwagen, a barnfind Renault truck (which I think was covered in Classic & Sportscar magazine recently) and what is possibly the most refined gelato-mobile in the UK.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 06:18:22 AM
The extraordinary Frazer Nash saloon "Owlet" (twin porthole windows in the rear) which defies its lack of aerodynamics, and a couple of the Fox & Nicholl Talbot AV105 team - I took a photo of 2 and then the other 2 turned up when I was at the back of their pit.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 06:32:26 AM
A few of the cars displayed on trade stands. I didn't expect to see a Fiat 126 beach car or a Pobeda. The Gordon- Keeble was for sale at £117k - I saw another one in the car park later so I witnessed  2% of the entire production run in the same day. The Alfa Monza was on Jim Stokes' stand so no doubt it's the real thing. The Aston Martin DB2/4 by Vignale was for some reason on the Radford stand in the Motor Show building.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 06:41:23 AM
Pics from the BRM 70 years tribute. The extraordinary V16 which caused so much heartache, and then just 16 years later they did the same again, total folly. That's the H-16 which only Jim Clark could do anything with. Note the drip tray for oil. Plus the gas turbine as fitted to the 1964 Le Mans entry.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 06:58:22 AM
The Ferrari 1512 was damaged in its race when the right front suspension was bent back at 90 degrees after hitting the bank at the chicane. This is how it looked next day. I have no idea where they got 56-year old spare parts from. Also the actual ex-Jim Clark Lotus 25, plus the car I considered as a child the epitome of a REAL racing car, the Talbot-Lago.

The Kieft of course didn't exist in period, and some consider it shouldn't be invited to race.  The "Cooper-Bristol" is one of my AP puzzles, the AC-Bristol single-seater built from a crashed sports car. Not a Cooper at all. The Ecurie Ecosse transporter was an exhibit in the paddock.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 07:05:00 AM
My apologies for the tiny image. There was a tribute parade for Stirling Moss and Mercedes sent along 722 - the actual 300SLR which won the 1955 Mille Miglia. I really hadn't expected to see it on the track, I thought it would be a static exhibit. Hence I was in the stand at Lavant when it appeared and I don't have a zoom lens on my pathetic camera.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 25, 2021, 07:05:19 AM
 :applause: :applause:
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 25, 2021, 07:13:54 AM
There was a huge entry this year, because as well as the racing there were large parades for the BRM and Stirling Moss tributes. As a result the paddock was packed full and additional pits were constructed outside which meant that the general public could get up close. Only the crowds stopped me from taking more photos. I have to thank Djetset for arranging for me to enter the official paddock - it's only entrants and GRRC members allowed in. No point in me applying for the GRRC - 6 years waiting list and I'll be dead by then!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on February 11, 2022, 10:28:36 AM
Planning to attend the Revival means advance thinking for me , living across the Irish Sea. The Premier Inn in Chichester is already booked up. I have a few health issues and I'm still undecided whether I will attend.

Djetset will be there of course, but is anyone else definitely going? I'll warn you now, my preliminary investigations reveal greatly increased hotel and hire car costs.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Carnut on February 13, 2022, 08:01:35 AM
Both the Revival and the Festival of Speed, both brilliant though they are (esp. the Revival), have become prohibitively expensive for me. I can't afford it so won't be there I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on February 13, 2022, 10:05:44 AM
Quote from: Carnut on February 13, 2022, 08:01:35 AM
Both the Revival and the Festival of Speed, both brilliant though they are (esp. the Revival), have become prohibitively expensive for me. I can't afford it so won't be there I'm afraid.

I know what you mean. My costings so far amount to £1400/1500 and that's before petrol and meals. My family don't want me to attend - my injuries are healing too slowly for their liking. (Ruptured Achilles in left ankle, tendonitis in the right ankle! I don't walk too easily  ;D ) I would make an effort to attend if there was a sizeable AP contingent, but that looks unlikely.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 04, 2023, 10:08:25 AM
I'm attending again this year but my rented house does not have wifi (!). I'd like to meet any other AP members who are going to be there - anyone interested in meeting up will need to send me a PM before Thursday evening and I can provide my mobile phone number.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 06:23:45 AM
Well that was a bit different - the British weather was ultra hot. Humidity too, so it was unpleasant to wear traditional period clothing. Unsurprisingly on the final day many people turned up in modern T-shirts and shorts, only to get soaking wet. Thankfully the car parks were not really affected. I didn't get the chance to meet Djetset, it was far too uncomfortable to move around much, although I called on Friday to borrow his mobile phone, as in my old age I had managed to leave mine in the rented house. He wasn't there - quelle surprise.

I had to swerve the paddock so my few photos are of cars for sale or on display. Aston DB6 Volante, Jensen 541R, AC Aceca-Bristol (£155K!), Maserati Merak in splendid period colour and Ferrari 330GTC.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 06:34:20 AM
There were several stands displaying electrified classics. I'm not sure about this - major engineering companies are working on synthetic fuels at the moment and I wonder if electric cars are a cul-de-sac. Anyway, a cute little Fiat 500, and of all things a Maserati Ghibli (there was an electric Ferrari 512 Testarossa round the corner!), a Baja Bug, a Fiat Multipla used as a Goodwood taxi, and Land Rovers converted to motorhomes.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 06:41:50 AM
More - a Lanchester 14/6 barnfind, a magnificent Burrell showman's engine (made in Thetford, my neck of the woods) , then miniature traction engines at £20k each, miniature Porsche 917 with 230cc engine for £20k for rich children, and the Sunbeam 1000hp LSR car which must have been borrowed from the NMM.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 08:30:00 AM
Some of my photos won't show. I'll try individually.

Aston Martin DB3S coupe, maybe the one built for David Brown himself.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 08:31:06 AM
Just for Norman, a TVR Clipper.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 08:32:14 AM
Bentley 3.5 litre by Park Ward.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 08:34:22 AM
MG Magna L2 . I spoke with the owner who says this car took part in the 1934 Tourist Trophy, in which case it's the private entry of A A Rigby.
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: Carnut on September 17, 2023, 12:05:34 PM
Quote from: nicanary on September 12, 2023, 08:31:06 AM
Just for Norman, a TVR Clipper.

Actually Andy it's a Trident Clipper!*

The only connection with TVR is that it's an adaptation of the original TVR Trident prototype's body design...

*That's what it's advertised as but even that's not entirely accurate as it was originally a Trident Venturer with a Ford V6 engine but it has been fitted with a 289 cu in V8 as per the Trident Clippers. Does that make it a Trident Clipper? A purist like me would say it's a Trident Venturer with a V8 engine; adding the Clipper badges etc doesn't make it a Clipper in my view!
Title: Re: Goodwood Revival
Post by: nicanary on September 10, 2024, 04:04:08 AM
I gave this year's event a miss. It heightens my enthusiasm for next year's racing - I've done it before. Anyway, I watched on the live stream, was pleased that I dodged the awful weather, and took the opportunity to establish the dates for next year and booked my accomodation a year in advance. The "hosts" were clearly unaware of the prices they could have charged and I hope they don't wake up and cancel my booking with some fatuous excuse. I found a room in the city itself - 0.4 miles from the station. Like golddust.

Anyway - if any member did attend the meeting and took photos, please feel free to post them here.