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That's the Delfino from The Netherlands.
It' was based on an Alfasud.
Yep, it's the Delfino! Do you know who designed it? Locked for you
F. that! I have only seen a picture in one book and yours is clearly differen. I'd like to know what came of it, as the book most people here have as a source doesn't mention it.
Patience, all will be revealed in time... ;)
I'll learn a bit from all of you. I didn't even know this thing was Alfasud based :D
The Delfino project was masterminded by Hans Hugenholtz, who was the founding director of the Zandvoort racing circuit and designer of a few other tracks too.
His son, Hans Hugenholtz junior, who is now a board member of Spyker Cars was involved in the car too.
I am not sure if they designed the Delfino themselves, but they must have had a hand into the design at least.
You've got it. Well done!
The caption that came with this photo was: A prototype of a super-sleek car as designed in 1947 by Hugenholtz, shown at the 1989 Autovak RAI. This car is mentioned in a few other lists out there on the web as the Hugenholtz Delfino.
I'll give you the point, but leave it open for a while to see what others have to add :)
Quote from: guido66 on May 02, 2010, 04:53:42 PM
You've got it. Well done!
The caption that came with this photo was: A prototype of a super-sleek car as designed in 1947 by Hugenholtz, shown at the 1989 Autovak RAI. This car is mentioned in a few other lists out there on the web as the Hugenholtz Delfino.
I'll give you the point, but leave it open for a while to see what others have to add :)
I believe the caption to be wrong, the car designed in 1947 was shown in the eighties at the RAI. This car was a different one, called Barkey and shown at the 1985 RAI.
According to wikipedia the Barkey is from 1948 and the Alfasud based Delfino from 1989. The reference mentioned there is the book you were referring to.
Can anyone shed more light on this? I'll move it to the pros, so they can give their input, too :)
Well, my source states that the Delfino did grow out of an unrelated idea at the time of the Barkey, that of a people mover. The prototype of the Barkey was shown in 1985, the Delfino a couple years later, but as a mock-up of 1:1 car. Apparently, it was the idea that Hugenholtz Sr. had at the time of the Barkey design that he never truly worked from until1987. His son took over the project in around the time it was shown. Apparently it was shipped to Italy, where it wasto be "completed" but after that I have no reference to the car what so ver.
According to the book Zukunfstautos der 80er jahre, it was based on an Alfa Romeo 33. (1717 cm³ 115 Hp).
It uses an 1.7 liter Alfa Romeo boxer engine, my source states. It states beyond that "with the Alfasud technology, in 1988 a specially designed platform was developed, with many welded reinforcements and a body made out of polyester. It repeats itselfs there more or less with the same wording divided over 3 stences.
Supposedly a CW of just 0.21, front wheel drive and economical at 5l/100km.
This is the forementioned Barkey from 1947.
So, I guess this case is closed now! :)
I only have info upto say 1990, but what ever happened to it?
Infos are in the 80s concept car book by Roger Gloor.
Will add some more soon.
That info never appeared.
But what is interesting to know is that at least part of the car was made by a Kitcar-builder called EWB. Apparently, according to my source, the car never had working lights, an exhaust or even a radiator (but he said it was driving).
Awkwardly enough, the car had just one door.
Oh sorry! Completely forgotten!
Will add some infos tomorrow!
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That book! I really can't remember where I put mine.
Here you go:
Usually most of the Dutch understand German. Seldom it's vice versa.. (schubladisiert = shelved)
It's kinda what we knew already, but thanks.
I know what a "schublade" is, so it made sense to me.
It's a drawer in a cabinet.
"In der Schublade verschwinden" is a common idiom for abandoned, shelved or still-born projects in Germany. The verb "schubladisiert" seems to be a Swiss mannerism.
I got some new insights in this car thanks to the person who build it.
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Great photos, but I now think I'm going to be sick. What was this guy smoking?!:-\
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I don't have any more pics, but I think it gave an insight and confirms the actual builder as EWB, a Dutch kitcar builder.
A polished turd, by any other name, would smell just as foul.
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Great addition, Autogids :thumbsup:
Now the only thing I would like to know is: what happened to it? My info shows it went to Italy. Maybe someone else can help me from here?
I have an article all about the Hugenholtz cars includiung some other pictures, and images of the original 1940s designs... but it is lost in the sea of newly aquired magazines... when I manage to find it (I'm currently indexing them all slowly) I will post up any information that hasn't been covered here already
The clearer the picture, the prettier it ain't
It looks like a lady-shaver... :bonk:
It might have been posted before under a different name. Barkey.