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Title: GG-166 Daniel Defever from Abele, Belgium homebuilt car
Post by: guido66 on June 06, 2010, 10:23:07 AM
Know it? Tell me by replying and I'll give you a point.
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Post by: guido66 on June 12, 2010, 07:55:08 AM
1 up..
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 18, 2010, 09:03:48 AM
DÍAZ Javier Díaz Orquín 1949 - 1955 Spain
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Post by: guido66 on June 19, 2010, 03:31:00 AM
Not that...
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2010, 04:38:19 AM
Ilore Microcar
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Post by: guido66 on June 19, 2010, 05:04:03 AM
Not that one, either
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Post by: Carnut on June 19, 2010, 08:18:09 AM
French?
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Post by: guido66 on June 19, 2010, 10:08:35 AM
No, not French
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Post by: Carnut on June 19, 2010, 06:22:11 PM
Quote from: Oguerrerob on June 18, 2010, 09:03:48 AM
DÍAZ Javier Díaz Orquín 1949 - 1955 Spain

Maybe that would have been a repost?

www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=10686.0

Title: Re: GG-166
Post by: guido66 on June 26, 2010, 06:48:10 AM
Last stop for the black hole...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 26, 2010, 06:54:59 AM
From South America?
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Post by: guido66 on June 26, 2010, 06:58:02 AM
Far from there..
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 26, 2010, 07:04:15 AM
Europe?
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Post by: guido66 on June 26, 2010, 08:12:44 AM
Yes.
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Post by: Paul Jaray on June 26, 2010, 08:40:33 AM
Germany, like Wendler?
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=1518.0
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Post by: guido66 on June 26, 2010, 10:43:39 AM
Not from Germany
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on June 26, 2010, 01:37:24 PM
Italy?
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Post by: guido66 on June 26, 2010, 04:12:03 PM
Not Italian.
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Post by: Carnut on June 27, 2010, 06:50:37 PM
Spain?
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Post by: Carnut on July 01, 2010, 08:29:54 AM
So is it Spanish?
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Post by: guido66 on July 01, 2010, 09:16:23 AM
Sorry, I missed you earlier question.

It's not spanish
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Post by: Allemano on July 01, 2010, 09:23:01 AM
Scandinavian?
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Post by: guido66 on July 01, 2010, 02:40:34 PM
No, not from up there
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Post by: Allemano on July 01, 2010, 03:04:17 PM
from one of the 'Alpin' countries?
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Post by: guido66 on July 01, 2010, 03:26:52 PM
No Alps to be seen in ....
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Post by: Allemano on July 01, 2010, 03:32:13 PM
BE-NE-LUX, then?
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Post by: guido66 on July 01, 2010, 03:39:50 PM
Yes  ;)
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Post by: Carnut on July 02, 2010, 08:30:24 AM
From Holland?
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Post by: guido66 on July 02, 2010, 09:36:54 AM
No, one of the other 2  ;)
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Post by: Allemano on July 02, 2010, 10:03:41 AM
Belgique?
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Post by: guido66 on July 02, 2010, 10:15:34 AM
It was 50-50, but guess what; Belgium it is!  :D
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Post by: Allemano on July 02, 2010, 12:58:21 PM
I'm so lucky today!
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Post by: yves on July 02, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
Dutch ?
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Post by: Allemano on July 02, 2010, 02:04:16 PM
Quote from: yves on July 02, 2010, 02:02:16 PM
Dutch ?
(http://www.mysmilie.de/midi-smileys/verwirrt/1/0009.gif) (http://www.mysmilie.de/)
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Post by: guido66 on July 02, 2010, 02:56:03 PM
 ??? No, it hasn't changed since I've replied to Allemano  :D
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Post by: woodinsight on July 02, 2010, 03:00:37 PM
Succes of 1952?
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Post by: guido66 on July 02, 2010, 04:31:20 PM
Not a Succes, but it is from 1952!
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 11:56:22 AM
Kleinstwagen by Reuck?
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Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 12:12:56 PM
The style of the house in the background let's me think it's Dutch... probably not right.
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Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
The country was already guessed by Allemano a month ago  ;D
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 05, 2010, 12:20:33 PM
how about my guess?
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Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 12:35:14 PM
Sorry, not that  ;)
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Post by: 75america on August 05, 2010, 12:39:17 PM
Belgian Cushman?
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Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 12:41:32 PM
Not that
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Post by: woodinsight on August 05, 2010, 01:14:46 PM
Condor?
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Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 02:59:05 PM
Quote from: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 12:19:27 PM
The country was already guessed by Allemano a month ago  ;D
Strangely invisible when I posted it. My apologies nonetheless.
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Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 03:20:17 PM
Not a Condor
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Post by: DeAutogids on August 05, 2010, 05:29:12 PM
I believe the old and historical Minerva made a "autoscoot" type car, which could be this. A long shot though
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Post by: guido66 on August 05, 2010, 05:42:25 PM
No relation to Minerva  ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 06, 2010, 01:37:33 PM
Was it built in a big city, like Brussels?
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Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 05:48:07 AM
Less than 1000 inhabitants  ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 08:10:14 AM
Wallonia or Flanders?
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Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 09:04:39 AM
Flanders
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 12:36:25 PM
Powered by a motorcycle engine?
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Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 01:27:07 PM
Yes, indeed!
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 01:35:26 PM
250 cc engine or less/more?
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Post by: guido66 on August 07, 2010, 01:38:07 PM
You decide, here's a picture of the very bike it was made out of  ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 07, 2010, 01:58:29 PM
Do you have the information from a Belgian site? I know it is not about the car, but I am trying to gather as many info as possible.
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Post by: guido66 on August 08, 2010, 04:20:12 AM
Happy hunting in the .be domain  ;)
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Post by: pnegyesi on August 08, 2010, 01:17:42 PM
That's a Sarolea motorcycle, right?
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Post by: guido66 on August 09, 2010, 04:21:00 AM
It isn't mentioned in the source, but I'm convinced it is one, indeed.
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Post by: guido66 on August 28, 2010, 09:17:10 AM
The reason this car was built is a very sad one.
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Post by: guido66 on September 12, 2010, 04:47:34 AM
Down in the hole..
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 12, 2010, 07:47:20 AM
Did someone died on the motorcycle?
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Post by: guido66 on September 12, 2010, 07:52:31 AM
Yes, his wife died on the motorcycle.
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 14, 2010, 03:19:43 AM
I spent a lot of time with this one. Is the page still around where you found this one?
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Post by: guido66 on November 14, 2010, 02:01:29 PM
Yes, this one is still out there to be found. Here's a photo of the workshop where it was built
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 03:17:24 AM
Village lies less than 100 km from Brussels?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 08:00:11 AM
144 km, according to Google maps  :)
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 09:10:44 AM
Famous for its beach?
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Post by: DeAutogids on November 15, 2010, 09:17:56 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 09:10:44 AM
Famous for its beach?
A beach in Belgium that is famous in your country? I never thought I would read this... the wonders of the world wide web...
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 09:32:32 AM
Not in my country, generally...
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 10:14:02 AM
20 km from the beach....
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 10:48:10 AM
Lame question I know, but does the village's name start with an L?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 11:18:44 AM
No it's one of the other 25  :D
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 11:31:44 AM
Pollinkhove?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 12:21:51 PM
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
In the 20 10 km radius of Pollinkhove?
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 12:38:48 PM
Izenberge?
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
Alveringem?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 01:37:31 PM
Quote from: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 12:23:07 PM
In the 20 10 km radius of Pollinkhove?

Yes!
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 01:38:11 PM
A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 12:43:32 PM
Alveringem?
hmm... you didn't cancelled the 'A'...
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 02:04:11 PM
Not Alveringem  ;)
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 02:06:04 PM
Avekapelle, then?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 02:08:14 PM
Alveringem is 10 km closer to the truth
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 02:18:51 PM
Abele?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 03:00:47 PM
Yes!
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 04:00:58 PM
I hoped that it would get me closer to the solution, but am stuck again... :-\
If you have a year for this: was it built in the 1940s?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 05:18:43 PM
Not in the 1940's.
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 06:17:27 PM
50s, then?
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 06:21:30 PM
Yes, although I don't think this will lead you to the solution
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Post by: Allemano on November 15, 2010, 06:26:23 PM
So, I guess the info is again hidden in an old news article or something like that... :-\
Wish me luck!  ;)
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Post by: guido66 on November 15, 2010, 07:01:31 PM
The information is digitally available on the web, but somehow Google hasn't picked up on it. Even if you know his full name you won't get a useful result. But this way I found out his nickname was "Pot" and there is a (co-)pilot in the Belgian historic Rally scene with exactly the same name, driving an all time classic.

This must be one of the most elaborate hints in autopuzzles history  :D
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Post by: pnegyesi on November 15, 2010, 11:42:38 PM
Stéphane Prevot?

Tom De Geetere?
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Post by: guido66 on November 16, 2010, 02:04:35 PM
None of the above
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Post by: Amsterdam on November 16, 2010, 02:51:45 PM
Daniël Defever???
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Post by: guido66 on November 16, 2010, 03:14:35 PM
 :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

O0  We have a winner!  O0

Blacksmith and mechanic Daniel Defever constructed this car from the remains of his motorcycle after an accident in which his wife died. The photograph is dated 1952.
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Post by: Allemano on November 16, 2010, 03:15:49 PM
Well done Amsterdam! (http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g106/pan1968/Gifs/party2.gif)
This one was freaking me out!
Title: Re: GG-166 Daniel Defever from Abele, Belgium homebuilt car
Post by: Amsterdam on November 16, 2010, 03:23:48 PM
 :cheer: I gave up on this one some time ago, But the nickname hint plus location and  rally co pilot did the trick. Without that not a chance. So thanks for the help.

And Guido you are right. even with the name nothing on the car pops up.


Title: Re: GG-166 Daniel Defever from Abele, Belgium homebuilt car
Post by: Ultra on November 17, 2010, 08:24:44 AM
Upcoming Rare Car of the Week!
Title: Re: GG-166 Daniel Defever from Abele, Belgium homebuilt car
Post by: guido66 on November 17, 2010, 12:41:47 PM
 :thumbsup: :drink:
Title: Re: GG-166 Daniel Defever from Abele, Belgium homebuilt car
Post by: pnegyesi on November 09, 2012, 11:03:14 AM
It seems there were a couple of such one-off cars built in the early 1950s in Belgium. A 1952 report claims that "pontoon"-bodied American cars were the template in the exterior styling. These microcars featured 150-250 cc engines.
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