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Title: Solved -PJ383- Benjamin F Harris III's 5th car
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 02, 2011, 03:32:08 PM
You think you know this car?
1 point for the builder's name
1 point for one of its owners
Enjoy!
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 03, 2011, 07:33:27 AM
This car is not (and was not intended to be) a replica of any kind.
The names I'm looking for are not obscure ones...
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Arunas on March 03, 2011, 09:09:54 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 03, 2011, 07:33:27 AM
The names I'm looking for are not obscure ones...

as always...
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Allemano on March 03, 2011, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: Arunas on March 03, 2011, 09:09:54 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 03, 2011, 07:33:27 AM
The names I'm looking for are not obscure ones...

as always...
Beware of easy puzzles by Paul Jaray...  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Amsterdam on March 03, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
Those owners? Are they well known like Royalty?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 03, 2011, 11:19:55 AM
Quote from: Amsterdam on March 03, 2011, 09:32:39 AM
Those owners? Are they well known like Royalty?
Nothing like that.
If you search for this name (the owner) in Autopuzzles, you'll have 17 results...22 for the builder.
There can be a clue in the picture if you can see it...(It's barely visible but ...who knows...)
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 04, 2011, 04:49:21 PM
This car was featured in a trendy magazine in the 80s
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Post by: jotage21 on March 09, 2011, 08:53:59 PM
Liberace?
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 10, 2011, 01:14:13 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 03, 2011, 11:19:55 AM
If you search for this name (the owner) in Autopuzzles, you'll have 17 results...22 for the builder.
There can be a clue in the picture if you can see it...(It's barely visible but ...who knows...)
Quote from: jotage21 on March 09, 2011, 08:53:59 PM
Liberace?
Nope...it was a Motor Trend Magazine.
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 11, 2011, 12:51:43 PM
You all know these two names (famous owner, builder).
Is not easy to find a clue for a very known name...is like 'french metal building, very tall...'
C'mon you'll find it interesting...(well, I did...)
You won't have to look far away from the Automobile world...
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Post by: jotage21 on March 11, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
Eiffel?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 11, 2011, 01:40:43 PM
Yep, that was the example.
Any guess?
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Post by: Wendax on March 11, 2011, 02:03:59 PM
Somebody who buys a neoclassic Stutz is also able to buy this one: was the owner Elvis Presley?
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 02:48:06 AM
Not Elvis Presley...I don't think we named him at Autopuzzles 17 times!
This man proved, beyond any doubt, that is taste for cars is refined...(and that's a big clue)
The builder selfbuilt this car and then gave it to this friend of his.
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 04:28:17 AM
Brooks Stevens?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 04:28:56 AM
Not him...but you are on the very right track.
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Post by: woodinsight on March 12, 2011, 04:42:51 AM
Raymond Loewy?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 04:59:08 AM
Not him...but it won't take long...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 05:04:39 AM
Virgil Exner?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 05:06:29 AM
Brooks Stevens
Raymond Loewy
Virgil Exner
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 05:15:25 AM
Bruce Meyers?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 05:18:25 AM
Brooks Stevens
Raymond Loewy
Bruce Meyers
Virgil Exner
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 05:26:42 AM
Last guess for now: Curt Brubaker?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 05:31:36 AM
You are thinking too complicated...this is a name you have to know.
Curt Brubaker is not THAT known.
This man can be associated to several cars, a very strange one in particular...it's not Bill Mitchell, none of the Italian designers...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 05:33:26 AM
Could be Franco Sbarro...

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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 05:35:29 AM
...not European...and not Harly Earl...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 05:36:29 AM
George Barris?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 05:37:07 AM
Not him...and not Tremulis...(those are all clues...)
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 06:37:02 AM
Better-known for non-automotive industrial design?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 06:43:37 AM
Automotive! (Not Dutch Darrin or  Northup...)
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 06:50:34 AM
Frank Kurtis?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 06:56:53 AM
With Barris and Kurtis you are slightly going out of the track...Stevens, Loewy, Earl, Mitchell, Exner, and this one are in the same list...
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Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2011, 06:58:16 AM
Count Goertz? (he's at least half-European, though)
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 06:59:36 AM
Dick Teague?
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Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2011, 07:01:32 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 06:59:36 AM
Dick Teague?
would have been my next guess...
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 07:22:49 AM
None of the above.
I'm sure it will be your next one...I can't think at any other big name!
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 07:39:21 AM
Chuck Jordan?
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 07:48:15 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 06:56:53 AM
With Barris and Kurtis you are slightly going out of the track...Stevens, Loewy, Earl, Mitchell, Exner, and this one are in the same list...
Not him.
This man is closely and directly associated with some milestones in the american auto industry...you are dancing around that name!
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2011, 07:50:37 AM
Larry Shinoda?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 07:55:11 AM
Gordon Miller Buehrig?
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Post by: Allemano on March 12, 2011, 07:57:39 AM
Bill Mitchell?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 08:03:34 AM
Quote from: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 07:55:11 AM
Gordon Miller Buehrig?
Yes!!!
Gordon Buerhig owned this car up until the time of his death!
Was I misleading with my clues? OK, it's always easy when you know the answer...
Now the, slightly, harder part.
Who build it?
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 12, 2011, 08:19:09 AM
Was the builder also a designer?
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 08:34:43 AM
Not a designer...but he designed and built his car....
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Wendax on March 18, 2011, 05:28:20 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 02:48:06 AM
Not Elvis Presley...I don't think we named him at Autopuzzles 17 times!

You are right, we named him 24 times.  ;D
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 19, 2011, 04:38:18 AM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 12, 2011, 08:34:43 AM
Not a designer...but he designed and built his car....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RG0ochx16Dg

;D

If "17" is the Rosetta Stone, I'll say Colin Chapmann
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 19, 2011, 06:01:59 AM
Not CC.
We named him several times but in few topics...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 19, 2011, 09:04:26 AM
Crikey!

Was the builder named in the course of guessing the owner?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 19, 2011, 06:11:52 PM
Nope, He was named because we have another car he built and because of his multiple activities...
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2011, 05:29:07 AM
One of us knows everything there is to know about him.
The clue not visible in the picture is the mascotte he used in the other creation he made...but also there is not visible....
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Paul Jaray on March 30, 2011, 03:12:03 PM
This car cames from the 70s and looks older...the other...well that's a totally different story...
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 31, 2011, 04:32:24 AM
William Stout?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on March 31, 2011, 07:37:50 AM
Not him but you are on the right track.
This man built few cars (only 5) but before this article, only 1 was known...not very known but here at autopuzzles it is.
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on March 31, 2011, 11:13:13 AM
Dan Lee?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2011, 02:54:40 AM
You are definetly on the right path.
Not him.
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2011, 03:34:11 AM
Ben Harris?
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2011, 04:47:12 AM
 :applause: :applause: :cheer: :cheer:
We have a winner!
This is one of the 5 cars Ben built.
Here's the article:
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2011, 05:32:33 AM
 :faint:
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Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2011, 05:35:53 AM
John found this article (and an incredible amount of other documents!) and suggested me to post it as a puzzle.
I would never thought there were 5 cars and looking to Ben's Speedster I'd bet they were all futuristic ones!
Title: Re: PJ - 383 - This is going to be interesting!
Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 01, 2011, 05:37:16 AM
Certainly unexpected. You're breaking new ground with these, PJ.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Solved -PJ383- Benjamin F Harris III's 5th car
Post by: Paul Jaray on April 01, 2011, 05:46:22 AM
Thank you...I like it when the solution cames with few clues and the detective work do the rest!

For all of you who are not familiar with Ben's works:
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=11958.msg125436#msg125436
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