Author Topic: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955  (Read 22385 times)

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2013, 06:35:19 PM »
Not Zundapp or any other known one.

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #26 on: January 07, 2013, 12:12:53 PM »
any heinkel connection?

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #27 on: January 07, 2013, 04:57:11 PM »
You are all looking in the wrong direction...no Heinkel.

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #28 on: January 07, 2013, 04:59:45 PM »
Is it motorcycle-based?

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #29 on: January 08, 2013, 11:37:45 AM »
I suppose it is.

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #30 on: January 08, 2013, 12:48:23 PM »
BMW engine?

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #31 on: January 08, 2013, 02:38:27 PM »
Find the builder and how he called his vehicle(s), that's all you need for a point.
I don't know much about this model in particular.

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2013, 04:50:32 AM »
ČERNİ?
You wanna be the man, you gotta Name That Car!

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2013, 05:27:43 AM »
Not him...
Big clue: the builder spent his life with these kind of vehicles...

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #34 on: January 20, 2013, 08:50:51 AM »
It probably doesn't resonate with our European members, but that guy looks just like Kenny Bania.  :D

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #35 on: January 20, 2013, 09:11:51 AM »
I'm surprised this one is still unsolved.
That man build a number of vehicles like that...if you google his name there are dozens of results!

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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #36 on: January 20, 2013, 09:57:16 AM »
The man is Wolfgang Trautwein, this is his first Duofront, based on a Norton motorcycle, built in 1955
https://rareandunique.media - Rare&Unique Vehicles magazine
http://magyarjarmu.hu - detailed Hungarian motoring history (Hungarian language)
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Re: PJ - 478
« Reply #37 on: January 20, 2013, 10:23:30 AM »
What took you so long?  ;D
Correct, one more point for you.

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #38 on: January 25, 2013, 09:47:54 AM »
In colour!:

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2013, 08:28:19 AM »
Oh, I had this one as the 1955 Dominator... :o


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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2013, 04:55:49 PM »
Now that I see this pic I realized I have it also as "Kurvenneiger" from a well known (and often wrong or unaccurate) site.

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #41 on: April 18, 2013, 09:48:50 AM »
Big picture in colour:

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #42 on: April 19, 2013, 04:52:11 PM »
Now that I see this pic I realized I have it also as "Kurvenneiger" from a well known (and often wrong or unaccurate) site.
Well it does do that, the vehicle can tilt in corners like a motorbike, but all wheels stay connected to the road. Only recently have we seen this commercially available.

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2019, 04:50:36 PM »
Grob's picture with some more background:

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Re: Solved -PJ478- Trautwein Duofront, 1955
« Reply #44 on: April 22, 2022, 10:59:23 AM »
Here two more photos taken in 1955 on "Solitude", Stuttgart, Germany.
Carl Hertweck, Editor-in-Chief of the magazine "das Motorrad", on a short test-drive and demonstrating the inclination in curves.

The vehicle had the original-parts of a Norton 500 Dominator-Twin from the steering-head to the rear. Instead of the front fork, there was a suspension of two 16''-wheels which could be inclined parallel in curves. Up to approx. 40 km/
h, the tilt function was blocked by a lever.
This lock then had to be released manually by the driver, and, of course, had to be locked again before stopping, otherwise...

C.H. the driving behaviour of this vehicle was so suspicious that he forbade his employees to drive with it.
But one of them (Ernst Leverkus, called "Klacks") begged until he was allowed to drive, but only "very, very carefully".

Anyone who knows a little about Klacks, can imagine how long this warning lasted.
At 130-140 km/h, it went through a gentle downhill right-hand bend and he left the road with his right front wheel (he had probably forgotten that this 'Domi' had two front wheels), due to the movement during bouncing the latch snapped in the vertical position, the vehicle left the roadway and whizzed down a slope. Klacks was ejected and probably only suffered only bruises.
When he arrived back at the top in a reasonably good condition, he was first embraced by his boss and then shat together.



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