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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2021 => Topic started by: Bill d isere on August 21, 2021, 08:45:29 AM
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For a point, please tell me what brands this cabin carries and what more does the second brand bring?
In addition to the point, I give full consideration to the person who gives the correct answer.
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Willème BMC?
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No
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Up
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Expert ?
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Saviem?
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Leyland Super Comet, as built under licence in Spain by E.N.A.S.A. (who built the Pegaso sports cars)?
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not know
not spain
But Leyland for half, without details of the precise model.
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One licence products of Dodge 300?
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No
The other manufacturer involved is not English
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Leyland Riever?...Riever being originally an Albion model name, but only the Albion transmission and cab fixation were incorporated into this Leyland version.
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Is the second company French?
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Some of these Bankfield-cabbed Leylands were sold in Israel under the name "Ashod".
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The "Ashods" might be equipped with this cab. This also should be sold with an Hotchkiss-brand. The Leyland truck-history is rather obscure,
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Sichel, you have the whole answer in this picture
I block for you
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Open your eyes, that helps you to see. The answer is Hotchkiss-Leyland, with Leyland and Hotchkiss brands.
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This cabin was produced by Brossel, Belgium and, among others, used by Ashod, Haifa. Here you see Brossel and Asod:
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Your answer was modified after mine.
Hotckiss is well involved here. But you are not giving away what his presence has brought to this cabin.
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Do you ask for the history of the connection between Leyland and Hotchkiss? I get the following informations from imternet and hope they are reliable. In the mid-1960s, Leyland wanted to strengthen its market position. Hotchkiss had problems and so it was agreed that Leyland trucks were to be assembled at Hotchkiss. This project failed quite quickly. Therefore Leyland took over the belgian company brossel to build cabs and vehicles there.
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Your info is reliable, no worries with that.
What I am asking is what Hotchkis did in particular on this cabin which did not exist at Leyland or afterwards.
Moreover, the cabin is provided by Motor Panels which itself does not offer the specificity provided by Hotchkiss.
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The search has been very exciting so far, but but now we have to dig a little deeper. Please give me some more time for this.
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Of course.
Read the text on your flyer, the solution is undoubtedly there
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That can take time, my last French lesson lies almost 50 years back. Do you happen to know where I can find my dictionary my dictionary for technical french. ;)
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My last German lesson is even older than that! :lmao:
So just look at a noticeable difference between your various photos.
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I'll get to work on untying the knot. The flyer describes the design of the Brossel cab:
Sheet steel sleeper-cab on a steel frame (picture six), but there also were short-versions under "Brossel"-branding (see above).
"Motor Panel" also used sheet steel for their short-cabins (picture one), sleeper-cabs were converted by Bankfiel (picture two).
But unlike brossel, there were also plastic cabins (picture three), but I have no information who built it.
To top it all off, there was also the short-door version of the LAD-Cab (picture four), LAD means Leyland, Albion, Dodge.
Here the "Motor Panels" range from 1958 in full beauty (picture five).
Is the confusion big enough now? But confusion is nothing unusual at Leyland. In Germany, "British Leyland" was called
"British Elend", Elend = misery. Or do we still want to talk about the different versions of Leyland, Albion and Dodge? How about the License- and CAD-Versions in Turkey, Israel or India? ;) ;)
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you have the correct answer indirectly. Hotchkiss has to offer a version with sleeper. But success did not come. No doubt because Leyland never inspired confidence in France either.
The point is given to you with respect and admiration
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Thanks you for the point and the praise :drink: You puzzle has opened up the Leyland truck world to me.
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The English world of trucks is very complex ...