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DAR 26 Kaelble Artillery Tractor
« on: May 15, 2022, 06:01:53 PM »
What is this?
Make?  Purpose?  Approx year?
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2022, 09:41:38 AM »
German Lanz artillery tractor, captured by British or Australian forces c. 1918?

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2022, 10:47:06 AM »
Artillery tractor, but not a Lantz.
The date I have is c. 1916 so 1918 is close enough.
I don't know whether this is a captured one or not.  The two men look more German than British to me.  But that's not part of the question.
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2022, 02:20:15 PM »
Dürkopp?

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2022, 03:24:54 PM »
Not a Dürkopp
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2022, 04:49:04 PM »
Found the photo (not with Google image search, just by searching for phrases like Erster Weltkrieg Zugmaschine.). It's in a museum, but identified only as "Zugmaschine mit 2 Soldaten."  That's no help.  Still looking.

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2022, 05:35:17 PM »
The link I found gave a make for the tractor
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2022, 10:13:00 PM »
1917 Kaelble artillery tractor with Daimler motor.  One of possibly two constructed.

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2022, 01:26:36 PM »
That's not the maker's name I have.  Unfortunately I've lost the link.
Can you corroborate yours?
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2022, 01:48:02 PM »
Yes, but how?  Do you want me to post a picture, or send a PM, or what?  I thought we weren't supposed to post links.

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2022, 02:20:33 PM »
From "Die Rad - Und Vollketten-Zugmaschinen - Des Deutschen Heeres 1871-1945", p. 39. Look carefully at both the front and rear wheels.


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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2022, 02:38:43 PM »
I still like Kaelble, but there is some discussion out there about it being a Deutz.  Was that the name you are looking for?  Apparently this tractor doesn't appear in Deutz archives.  Apparently Kaelble built two, and those may be the ones visible in the pic I posted.  Note the CK notation, which may mean "Carl Kaelble."

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2022, 10:01:39 AM »
Bump.  I found some discussion on a WWI vehicle forum that is pertinent but I thought we are forbidden to post links.

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2022, 10:29:28 AM »
I found it in a Facebook group that focuses on lorries.  Someone posted the picture with a generic title "World War 1 artillery tractor".  Somebody else posted saying it was a Bussing - he sounded very positive and nobody questioned it.  Now I am having my doubts.
I suggest we call it solved as a Kaelble Artillery Tractor from circa 1916.  Do you agree?
(and award you the point of course)
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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2022, 12:59:12 PM »
Here are some pictures from a WWI vehicle forum.  I shouldn't post links.  The discussion seems to be fairly well agreed that the Bussing is similar but different from the Kaelble.  Notice the Bussing's wheels are different.

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2022, 01:03:36 PM »
I found it in a Facebook group that focuses on lorries.  Someone posted the picture With a generic title "World War 1 artillery tractor".  Somebody else posted saying it was a Bussing - he sounded very positive and nobody questioned it.  Now I am having my doubts.
I suggest we call it solved as a Kaelbe Artilley Tractor from circa 1916.  Do you agree?

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Re: DAR 26
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2022, 05:37:25 PM »
For what it's worth, here's another pic, which is positively identified as a Bussing.  Note the wheels are different from any previously posted.


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Re: DAR 26 Kaelble Artillery Tractor
« Reply #17 on: May 22, 2022, 01:20:25 AM »
To me, it's not the same.