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Title: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 05, 2023, 10:10:46 AM
Who can give me the name, engine, formula and year of this pretty little car?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 14, 2023, 07:55:45 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: richard fridd on March 15, 2023, 04:37:44 PM
Elva?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 16, 2023, 12:49:16 PM
Not an Elva
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: mekubb on March 16, 2023, 02:03:21 PM
Lotus-based ?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 16, 2023, 04:28:19 PM
Not that I know of.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: studhamsmudger on March 16, 2023, 04:48:05 PM
GSM Delta, Ford engine from 1961?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 16, 2023, 06:20:04 PM
Not a GSM, not 1961, but you've lucked in to the Ford engine.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 25, 2023, 10:55:42 AM
Silence for a week so up to the pros.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: nicanary on March 25, 2023, 11:10:15 AM
I also thought it was GSM. Is it a Tornado of some sort?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 25, 2023, 12:16:08 PM
It's not a Tornado as far as I know. 
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: nicanary on March 25, 2023, 12:21:25 PM
Buckler chassis?
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: fromwien on March 25, 2023, 12:28:10 PM
Nimbus Ford 1172ccm Special,later Mini mid engined, Don Parker, 1965
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: nicanary on March 25, 2023, 12:59:03 PM
Nimbus Ford 1172ccm Special,later Mini mid engined, Don Parker, 1965

Well solved. It originally had a GSM body which answers that enigma.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: fromwien on March 25, 2023, 02:46:59 PM
Some more details about the story of this car:
The Don-Parker-built Nimbus started life in South Africa as a special with a Riley engine. In 1957 the car came as a rolling chassis to the UK. Don put then the first made fibreglass bodywork of Willi Meissner's and Bob van Nierkerk's GSM Delta  on his own built chassis. The completed Nimbus started his race-career in the UK with an 1172 Ford engine installed, mated to a Norton gearbox and chain-driven to a solid rear axle.
About 1965 Don completely rebuilt the Nimbus with a mid-mounted Mini Cooper engine mated to a Shorrocks blower. He ran the car in competition until 1979

Two pictures attached, showing the Nimbus Special with mid-mounted Mini-engine
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 25, 2023, 06:51:29 PM
Yes, it is the Nimbus when it was 1172 Ford powered.  So I still need the Formula and the year please.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: fromwien on March 25, 2023, 07:04:58 PM
1) The Nimbus was powered by the 1172cc Ford engine from 1957 to 1964/65
2) Formula 1172
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: D-type on March 25, 2023, 08:27:18 PM
Near enough.  This photo was taken in 1958.
(and I have remembered your point this time.
Title: Re: DAR 74
Post by: fromwien on March 26, 2023, 04:08:44 AM
Near enough.  This photo was taken in 1958.
(and I have remembered your point this time.
I don't know if I can really thank you, for what you did.
Before you 'awarded' me with a (subtracted) point, I had already reached a score of '710' points. After solving 'DAR 74' and thanks to your generosity, I now only have '709' points on my account instead of the correct '711'.
I know, that you are not very keen on awarding me points, but please be so fair and establish the correct score.
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: Wendax on March 26, 2023, 04:41:20 PM
D-Type, you subtracted two points from fromwien's total, before you added one:
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: fromwien on March 27, 2023, 03:13:55 AM
Very, very questionable behavior, if you look at the progression of the puzzle over time and on the dates of the respective point deductions. I see no evident connection with the puzzle and any need or authorization of 'D-type' to manipulate my score in any way at the respective times.
Very, very strange..
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: fromwien on March 27, 2023, 05:20:52 AM
Time-table:
2023-March-25
2:46:59
6:48:32 subtracting one point/Why????/Why manipulating my score? The puzzle wasn't solved, due to the following answer of the puzzle-setter
6:51:29
7:04:58
8:24:58 subtracting one point/Why????/Why manipulating my score, before confirming the solution of the puzzle?
8:27:18
8:27:46 adding one point
Result: One point less, instead of one point more
..and a lot of uncertainty whether this all happened by coincidences. Everyone should take its own opinion about it. No comment
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 27, 2023, 12:48:41 PM
Initially I awarded you a point.  Then I realised that although you had provided a lot of information you hadn't answered two of my my specific questions, ie Formula and year.  So I subtracted the point and said what answers I still needed to complete the puzzle.  When I got the answers I wanted I added the point again.  At least that's what I thought I had done. So your total should have increased by one. 
It looks as if initially I accidentally subtracted when I meant to add a point. Pure fat fingers and nothing personal.
So what's the solution?  Should I now add two points?
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: nicanary on March 27, 2023, 01:06:54 PM
A check of the situation by the editors has confirmed this - you do need to award fromwien 2 points.
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 27, 2023, 01:14:59 PM
Done (and I did click on the correct button this time)
My apologies to all concerned.
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: fromwien on March 28, 2023, 03:47:35 AM
Initially I awarded you a point.  Then I realised that although you had provided a lot of information you hadn't answered two of my my specific questions, ie Formula and year.  So I subtracted the point and said what answers I still needed to complete the puzzle.  When I got the answers I wanted I added the point again.  At least that's what I thought I had done. So your total should have increased by one. 
It looks as if initially I accidentally subtracted when I meant to add a point. Pure fat fingers and nothing personal.
So what's the solution?  Should I now add two points?
I swore to myself I wouldn't comment again on this. However, clarification:
1) 'Initially I awarded you a point': This was the point for solving 'DAR 73' before. You felt certainly sure, you added that point to my account. You didn't. 'Wendax' had to clarify the situation (see attachment).
2) 'It looks as if initially I accidentally subtracted when I meant to add a point. Pure fat fingers and nothing personal': Then why did you award a next point again later if you just mistakenly pressed the wrong button beforehand?
3) It's just sad

Thanks and sorry to the editors. No comment anymore about this
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 28, 2023, 06:37:52 AM
Fromwien, the important thing is are you now happy that your points total is now correct with all the accidental unintentional discrepancies resolved.

I have tried to explain what I think happened:
(1)  I accidentally hit "subtract" instead of "add" when you initially answered the question along with a lot of additional information
(2)  I deliberately subtracted a point when I decided you had not fully answered my question
(3)  I added the point back in when I had a complete answer
(4)  When the discrepancy was pointed out I added two points to rectify action (1)

I have apologised for making a mistake.  What more can I do?  Apart, of course, from being more careful in future.

Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: fromwien on March 28, 2023, 07:22:33 AM
Again, this presentation is wrong (missing the next subtracted point between 2. and 3.). Please read the time-table carefully. Then you can most easily comprehend what you did. The time-table is the only unaffected fact that is credible.
I hope you understand my suspicion, as there were numerous error accumulations with puzzles 'DAR 73' and 'DAR 74'. Not one mistake only, as you try to make it plausible
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 28, 2023, 11:36:35 AM
I repeat:  Are you happy about your points now?
 
I have stated it is not a vendetta - because it is not. I have admitted I made a mistake.  I have explained how I think it happened. 

I have apologised.

What more do you expect me to do?
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: fromwien on March 28, 2023, 11:43:00 AM
The unmistakable time-table still show you the real history
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: D-type on March 28, 2023, 12:54:11 PM
For heaven's sake!
 
Why can't you accept:
 DAR 73 - I simply forgot
 DAR 74 - I mistakenly hit "Subtract" instead of "Add" and the rest followed from there

In both cases once it was pointed out I rectified it.

There is no reason for you to conduct a vendetta
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: nicanary on March 28, 2023, 01:00:55 PM
May I suggest that the two members involved please stay away from each other's puzzles? This used to be a friendly website.
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: Wendax on March 28, 2023, 05:18:26 PM
... and that is the only way this forum will work.
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: Carnut on March 29, 2023, 05:49:24 AM
Indeed. Please just drop it and concentrate on puzzling fromwien.

D-Type is not on trial!
Title: Re: Solved: DAR 74 : 1958 DP Nimbus-Ford 1172 Formula
Post by: Ultra on March 29, 2023, 02:02:29 PM
Sad.