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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Master AutoPuzzles => Topic started by: Fёdor on August 23, 2024, 10:25:53 AM

Title: FVK_317
Post by: Fёdor on August 23, 2024, 10:25:53 AM
Please identify this vehicle
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Post by: Fёdor on October 27, 2024, 04:42:33 AM
Experts ?
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Post by: Fёdor on November 17, 2024, 10:20:18 AM
Pros !
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Post by: Fёdor on February 15, 2025, 02:26:23 AM
Masters ?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 15, 2025, 04:22:42 AM
Built before 1905?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 15, 2025, 04:37:15 AM
Made in 1905
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 15, 2025, 08:25:32 AM
From France?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 16, 2025, 02:46:53 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2025, 03:41:34 AM
European?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 16, 2025, 06:01:56 AM
Yes
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2025, 06:12:20 AM
Germany?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 16, 2025, 07:26:06 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2025, 07:32:56 AM
Spain?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 16, 2025, 10:38:10 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2025, 11:54:31 AM
Switzerland?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 16, 2025, 02:27:15 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 16, 2025, 02:38:20 PM
Belgium?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 16, 2025, 02:48:16 PM
Italy?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 02:22:35 AM
2 х No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 17, 2025, 02:51:08 AM
Austria?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 04:00:21 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 17, 2025, 04:06:48 AM
Scandinavian?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 10:17:52 AM
No
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Post by: fromwien on February 17, 2025, 10:30:40 AM
Corbin, UK?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 10:48:54 AM
Corbin - No, UK - Yes
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Post by: Oguerrerob on February 17, 2025, 10:58:52 AM
Netherlands?
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Post by: fromwien on February 17, 2025, 11:12:14 AM
Vivinus, Belgium?
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Post by: gte4289 on February 17, 2025, 07:41:43 PM
Did the manufacturer/brand produce cars for more than 4 years?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 10:24:21 PM
Netherlands?
Vivinus, Belgium?
No. As previously answered from UK.
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Post by: Fёdor on February 17, 2025, 10:25:17 PM
Did the manufacturer/brand produce cars for more than 4 years?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 17, 2025, 11:10:28 PM
West-Aster 35 hp by West Ltd?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 18, 2025, 11:02:37 AM
No.
I didn't find any information about this manufacturer in any reference book
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Post by: gte4289 on February 18, 2025, 03:15:31 PM
Is the passenger someone of importance?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 19, 2025, 11:58:37 AM
Unfortunately, I have no information on your question.
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Post by: gte4289 on February 19, 2025, 09:20:30 PM
Do you know if the top is removable (landaulette) or fixed (limousine)?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 19, 2025, 10:39:20 PM
I can't answer for sure, but I think it's a fixed (limousine)
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Post by: gte4289 on February 19, 2025, 10:52:20 PM
Please identify this vehicle
What information are you looking for - make, model/type, hp rating, coachbuilder?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 20, 2025, 10:55:39 AM
Yes, I'm clarifying. You need to name the manufacturer, engine power, and year of manufacture.
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Post by: gte4289 on February 20, 2025, 01:31:28 PM
Did the manufacturer produce cars for more than 2 years?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 22, 2025, 01:48:04 AM
I did not find this information in any reference book. Perhaps it was released only in the year when this photo was taken.
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Post by: gte4289 on February 22, 2025, 02:07:18 AM
Seetsu by James McGeoch and Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 22, 2025, 06:35:07 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 22, 2025, 04:31:44 PM
One of the Aster-engined cars built by Bennett and Carlise of Manchester (aka Newton, Bennett and Carlisle; aka Newton & Bennett) in 1905 under the brand names 'Manch-Aster' and 'Manchester'?
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Post by: fromwien on February 22, 2025, 04:55:03 PM
Morgan?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 23, 2025, 01:25:30 AM
One of the Aster-engined cars built by Bennett and Carlise of Manchester (aka Newton, Bennett and Carlisle; aka Newton & Bennett) in 1905 under the brand names 'Manch-Aster' and 'Manchester'?
No, not him. The production year is correct.
Morgan?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 23, 2025, 01:30:41 AM
Sandringham by Frank Edward Morriss?
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Post by: fromwien on February 23, 2025, 03:29:02 AM
Edismith?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 23, 2025, 04:59:32 AM
Sandringham by Frank Edward Morriss?
Edismith?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 23, 2025, 05:37:16 AM
engine power
More than 14 hp?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 23, 2025, 08:42:27 AM
Slightly more than this figure
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Post by: gte4289 on February 23, 2025, 01:28:34 PM
Kelvin 16 hp by Bergius Car and Engine Co?

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Post by: Fёdor on February 23, 2025, 10:42:22 PM
Kelvin 16 hp by Bergius Car and Engine Co?
No. But the engine power is correct.
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Post by: gte4289 on February 23, 2025, 11:06:21 PM
Drummond?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 23, 2025, 11:58:40 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 24, 2025, 04:53:47 AM
La Plata?
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Post by: fromwien on February 24, 2025, 07:57:48 AM
MS (Shave-Mors)?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 24, 2025, 11:11:17 AM
La Plata?
MS (Shave-Mors)?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 24, 2025, 12:53:42 PM
I did not find this information in any reference book. Perhaps it was released only in the year when this photo was taken.
Perhaps it was a rebrand of a car by another manufacturer. Was the manufacturer also a dealer/importer or coachbuilder?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 24, 2025, 02:43:01 PM
Yes, she was an importer of cars.
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Post by: gte4289 on February 24, 2025, 04:56:51 PM
Alington 14/16 hp by Straker & MacConnell?
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Post by: grobmotorix on February 24, 2025, 05:28:35 PM
Is it a Bailey & Lambert?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 24, 2025, 10:08:27 PM
Alington 14/16 hp by Straker & MacConnell?
Is it a Bailey & Lambert?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 25, 2025, 02:43:36 AM
Theo Masui/British Germain Motor Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 25, 2025, 10:13:43 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 25, 2025, 12:19:13 PM
Regent by S. F. Edge/Motor Power Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 25, 2025, 12:27:18 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 25, 2025, 12:39:31 PM
Importer of a French brand?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 25, 2025, 02:17:36 PM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on February 25, 2025, 02:18:55 PM
Gladiator?
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Post by: fromwien on February 25, 2025, 04:19:45 PM
Manchester?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 25, 2025, 10:31:11 PM
Gladiator?
I have not yet found out which car brands were imported. I asked the person who posted this picture.
Manchester?
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 26, 2025, 12:27:14 AM
H. M. Hobson?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 26, 2025, 02:16:20 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 26, 2025, 04:44:15 PM
Were the manufacturer and brand names basically the the same (e.g., Beaufort by Beaufort Motor Co) or was the brand name completely different (e.g., La Plata by Burgon & Ball Ltd)?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 26, 2025, 10:36:41 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on February 26, 2025, 10:56:17 PM
Were the manufacturer and brand names basically the the same (e.g., Beaufort by Beaufort Motor Co) or was the brand name completely different (e.g., La Plata by Burgon & Ball Ltd)?
No
"No," meaning the manufacturer and brand names were not basically the same?

So they were different like the La Plata example, correct?
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Post by: Fёdor on February 27, 2025, 09:53:15 AM
Unfortunately, the owner of this photo is not responding. I found information that the manufacturer's name and the company itself match. The importing company was located both in France and in England. Various engines and other components were imported, as well as cars of only one brand. Most likely, this car was renamed from an imported car.
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Post by: gte4289 on March 02, 2025, 05:30:42 PM
...cars of only one brand.
French brand?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 02, 2025, 10:24:25 PM
Yes
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Post by: gte4289 on March 02, 2025, 10:40:58 PM
...cars of only one brand.
Clément?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 03, 2025, 12:07:16 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 03, 2025, 12:18:22 AM
Peugeot?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 03, 2025, 01:14:55 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 03, 2025, 02:08:04 AM
Aries?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 03, 2025, 03:20:09 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 04, 2025, 01:53:17 AM
Importer of CGV?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 04, 2025, 02:36:53 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 04, 2025, 10:14:08 PM
Any connection to William Cole?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 04, 2025, 10:47:31 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 04, 2025, 10:50:00 PM
Any connection to Deasey?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 05, 2025, 01:50:55 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 05, 2025, 02:43:40 PM
Martin/Hall & Martin?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 05, 2025, 02:48:24 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 05, 2025, 03:53:33 PM
Any connection with Cadogan?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 05, 2025, 10:42:36 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 05, 2025, 11:54:21 PM
Eastbourne?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 06, 2025, 04:11:05 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2025, 04:18:17 PM
Any connection to Pivot?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 06, 2025, 10:27:53 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2025, 10:34:26 PM
Any connection to Burlington Carriage Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 06, 2025, 10:42:08 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 06, 2025, 10:58:08 PM
Connection to Ivanhoe Motor Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 07, 2025, 04:07:17 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 07, 2025, 04:27:04 AM
Connection to J. E. Hutton?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 07, 2025, 09:24:16 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 10, 2025, 06:39:48 PM
Connection to Evart-Hall?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 11, 2025, 11:26:02 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 11, 2025, 06:25:30 PM
Connection to George Iden?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 11, 2025, 11:35:44 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2025, 02:49:56 AM
Orleans/New Orleans?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 12, 2025, 06:23:59 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 12, 2025, 05:07:10 PM
Connection to J. Prunello/JP/Prunel/JP Motor Co?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 12, 2025, 11:00:07 PM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on March 13, 2025, 03:52:55 AM
Connection to Charles Friswell?
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Post by: Fёdor on March 13, 2025, 11:30:35 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on April 17, 2025, 02:55:53 AM
Unfortunately, the owner of this photo is not responding. I found information that the manufacturer's name and the company itself match. The importing company was located both in France and in England. Various engines and other components were imported, as well as cars of only one brand. Most likely, this car was renamed from an imported car.
The puzzle picture publication was in french (language)?
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Post by: Fёdor on April 17, 2025, 03:21:41 PM
No. From English
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Post by: gte4289 on April 18, 2025, 12:48:03 AM
Clement connection?
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Post by: Fёdor on April 18, 2025, 06:09:06 AM
No
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Post by: Oguerrerob on April 19, 2025, 04:54:48 AM
Mors?
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Post by: Fёdor on April 19, 2025, 10:19:20 AM
No
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Post by: gte4289 on April 30, 2025, 02:18:20 AM
Any connection to Ader/Pegasus?
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Post by: Fёdor on April 30, 2025, 10:26:10 AM
No. This manufacturer has lived much longer.