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Puzzles, Games and Name That Car => Solved AutoPuzzles => 2023 => Topic started by: fromwien on February 04, 2023, 05:42:49 AM

Title: SOLVED: FW #455: OMS Porsche 2,4L by Giuseppe Signorello, Carrera 6 based, 1972
Post by: fromwien on February 04, 2023, 05:42:49 AM
Please identify this race car
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on April 15, 2023, 11:11:54 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: knewit on April 16, 2023, 12:21:49 PM
Sauber
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on April 16, 2023, 01:00:05 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 02, 2023, 03:23:31 AM
Professionals?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: nicanary on May 02, 2023, 04:15:29 AM
British?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 02, 2023, 04:18:31 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 12, 2023, 07:56:14 PM
European?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 13, 2023, 02:53:12 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 13, 2023, 03:00:46 AM
Central (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/professional-autopuzzles/fvk_202/msg602036/#msg602036) European?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 13, 2023, 03:17:41 AM
Partly
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 15, 2023, 08:30:50 PM
Built in one of those countries?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 16, 2023, 02:53:05 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 16, 2023, 03:57:30 PM
Built in a Scandinavian country?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 17, 2023, 02:11:22 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 17, 2023, 08:18:47 AM
German powered?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 17, 2023, 10:29:14 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 17, 2023, 08:48:15 PM
Built in Latin America?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 18, 2023, 03:51:32 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 25, 2023, 05:57:43 PM
Built in one of these countries?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 26, 2023, 05:07:42 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 26, 2023, 10:58:09 AM
Built in France?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 26, 2023, 12:59:16 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on May 26, 2023, 05:13:25 PM
Italy?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on May 27, 2023, 04:07:33 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on June 15, 2023, 02:15:58 AM
VW engine?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on June 15, 2023, 02:18:22 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on June 15, 2023, 02:19:45 AM
DKW engine?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on June 15, 2023, 02:22:25 AM
Far bigger engine
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on June 15, 2023, 03:43:22 AM
BMW?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on June 15, 2023, 08:44:17 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on June 21, 2023, 05:18:56 PM
Masters?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: oko94 on June 23, 2023, 03:58:53 AM
Porsche engine ?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: knewit on June 23, 2023, 12:16:13 PM
NSU engine
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 03, 2023, 03:45:43 PM
AMS Autoracing 1000 SP?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 03, 2023, 04:04:38 PM
NSU engine
No
AMS Autoracing 1000 SP?
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 03, 2023, 04:34:37 PM
Far bigger engine
> 2 liters?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 03, 2023, 06:19:23 PM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: oko94 on July 03, 2023, 06:22:31 PM
Porsche engine ?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 03, 2023, 06:24:26 PM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 03, 2023, 08:43:54 PM
1970-73?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 04, 2023, 02:27:03 AM
Yes
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 14, 2023, 10:37:04 PM
Is it some version of Ennio Bonomelli's Lola-Porsche?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 06:39:42 AM
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2023, 08:54:51 AM
I think it could be Porsche 910 Scuderia Etna Categoria Sport-Classe da 1601 a 2000 cc piloti Angelo Bonaccorsi - Alfio Nicolosi 1972 at Targa Florio Sicilia, Italy
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 02:43:48 PM
Great found! And I think, there must be a connection between the puzzle-car and this probably mis-designated 910 you've found.
Sadly, it isn't a 910, but 1972 and not 1601 to 2000 ccm
LOCKED for you for three attempts
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 15, 2023, 03:09:58 PM
And I think, there must be a connection between the puzzle-car and this probably mis-designated 910 you've found.
I agree that the body of this Scuderia Etna car and that of the puzzle car are almost certainly one and the same. A funny thing is that I have this image in my own digital archive, which I never bothered to look through.
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2023, 03:18:04 PM
Sorry, GTE4289.

I've found this picture in a Targa Florio specialist page. This car is not even mentioned in the Scuderia Etna page or their Facebook. That's all I have. Please, don't locked it, I have no further answer
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2023, 03:30:00 PM
Another page
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 03:33:09 PM
Ok, unlocked again.
Interesting to follow your discussion. I am absolutely sure too, that there's a connection between the puzzle car and the Targa Florio car, you've found.
1972 is correct, Porsche-based is correct, and Alfio Nicolosi was envolved.
But: It is designated to the company, which built the car. It haven't used an engine for competiton class 1601-2000ccm and it wasn't based on a 910
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2023, 03:40:01 PM
I've found this
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 03:41:26 PM
Scuderia Etna entrant this car at the Targa Florio 1972, but for sure never was a car builder
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 15, 2023, 03:43:13 PM
All I've found that it was an "Artigianale" (Hand built). But no further info
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: oko94 on July 15, 2023, 03:55:07 PM
Porsche 908-based ?
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 05:16:00 PM
All I've found that it was an "Artigianale" (Hand built). But no further info
Sorry, as I stated more than once, there is a manufacturer
Porsche 908-based ?
No
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 05:24:18 PM
I think it could be Porsche 910 Scuderia Etna Categoria Sport-Classe da 1601 a 2000 cc piloti Angelo Bonaccorsi - Alfio Nicolosi 1972 at Targa Florio Sicilia, Italy
Sorry, GTE4289.

I've found this picture in a Targa Florio specialist page. This car is not even mentioned in the Scuderia Etna page or their Facebook. That's all I have. Please, don't locked it, I have no further answer
I've found this
Sorry, GTE4289.

I've found this picture in a Targa Florio specialist page. This car is not even mentioned in the Scuderia Etna page or their Facebook. That's all I have. Please, don't locked it, I have no further answer
FYI: The car has been entered by "Scuderia Etna" (with a wrong designation) for the "Targa Florio 1972". But never ran there. Also not in practice
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 15, 2023, 05:47:27 PM
Found it!

Built by Officine Meccaniche Signorello (OMS) in 1972 on the shortened chassis of Alfio Nicolosi's Porsche Carrera 6 (906). Ennio Bonomelli set up the 2.4 liter engine and modified the brakes.
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 15, 2023, 06:16:45 PM
Found it!

Built by Officine Meccaniche Signorello (OMS) in 1972 on the shortened chassis of Alfio Nicolosi's Porsche Carrera 6 (906). Ennio Bonomelli set up the 2.4 liter engine and modified the brakes.
The same car was driven by Giulio Pucci and Vittorio Maione in the 1974 Targa Florio with modifications to the bodywork to meet regulations:
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: fromwien on July 15, 2023, 06:45:34 PM
Both correct. To be found on 'facebook'. A well earned point for you!  :thumbsup:

Please don't take it personally, but again, as so often happens, it's hard for me to refute, if a puzzle car can be found three times wrongly designated on the internet.
It strikes me more and more that this site helps more the well-connected Internet professionals to solve a puzzle, which is quite legitimate, than the real carmaniacs, who go to work empirically. This does not correspond to my interests at all, which is why I like to withdraw a little bit. I look forward to all of you, solving as many of my puzzles as soon as possible.

This is not an accusation, just a statement from observation. Please don't let anyone feel offended

Hint: Throw away all your old books and magazines, take your time on the net and collect car-related sites, as many as possible. Even if the information is not a in-depth one, but enough for collecting points
Title: Re: FW #455
Post by: gte4289 on July 16, 2023, 02:27:30 PM
Both correct. To be found on 'facebook'. A well earned point for you!  :thumbsup:
Thanks for the point!

Please don't take it personally, but again, as so often happens, it's hard for me to refute, if a puzzle car can be found three times wrongly designated on the internet.
It strikes me more and more that this site helps more the well-connected Internet professionals to solve a puzzle, which is quite legitimate, than the real carmaniacs, who go to work empirically. This does not correspond to my interests at all, which is why I like to withdraw a little bit. I look forward to all of you, solving as many of my puzzles as soon as possible.

This is not an accusation, just a statement from observation. Please don't let anyone feel offended

Hint: Throw away all your old books and magazines, take your time on the net and collect car-related sites, as many as possible. Even if the information is not a in-depth one, but enough for collecting points
??? :huh: