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Title: SOLVED: FW #643: Magirus Deutz Mercur LF8, Jacob & Sohn, 1954
Post by: fromwien on October 13, 2024, 05:30:00 PM
Please be so kind and identify this car: Make? Type? Coachbuilder? Year?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 12:27:16 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: Alfa_Japan on October 29, 2024, 12:30:09 PM
Magirus Deutz S3500?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 12:35:39 PM
It is a MagirusDeutz, but sorry, I have another type
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Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 12:41:54 PM
S 6500, no idea about the body manufacturer. From Germany (Trilex)??
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 01:10:11 PM
Not S 3500 and S 6500, but in between, as far as tonnage concerned
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Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 01:15:08 PM
Quote from: sichel on October 29, 2024, 12:41:54 PM
S 6500, no idea about the body manufacturer. From Germany (Trilex)??
Yes, body manufacturer from Germany
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: marmer on October 29, 2024, 03:06:45 PM
Saturn O1?
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Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 03:16:05 PM
Saturn S 5500.
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 04:35:36 PM
Quote from: marmer on October 29, 2024, 03:06:45 PM
Saturn O1?
Quote from: sichel on October 29, 2024, 03:16:05 PM
Saturn S 5500.
Not Saturn
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 04:55:04 PM
Well, the Mercur it is. Structure from Bachert?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 05:34:43 PM
Quote from: sichel on October 29, 2024, 04:55:04 PM
Well, the Mercur it is. Structure from Bachert?
Yes, it is a Mercur, but this isn't the complete type designation. Sorry, bodywork not by Bachert
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 06:03:30 PM
Well, I'll make it complete: Mercur S 4500. Body from Schlingmann?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: sichel on October 29, 2024, 06:03:30 PM
Well, I'll make it complete: Mercur S 4500. Body from Schlingmann?
Not Mercur S 4500, not by Schlingmann
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 06:43:46 PM
Magirus Mercur S 4500/6, structure by Magirus.
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 29, 2024, 06:46:56 PM
Sorry, neither, nor; but the tonnage is correct
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 29, 2024, 07:29:19 PM
Mercur 112
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Post by: Alfa_Japan on October 30, 2024, 02:57:44 AM
125A with body by Kloeckner-Humboldt-Deutz?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 03:51:08 AM
Neither 125A, nor body by Kloeckner-Humboldt-Deutz
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Post by: sichel on October 30, 2024, 05:27:16 AM
Mercur 120 by Metz?
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Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 05:50:28 AM
Not '120' and not by Metz
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Post by: sichel on October 30, 2024, 06:00:51 AM
125?
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Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 08:30:19 AM
No
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Post by: sichel on October 30, 2024, 10:09:39 AM
Does the puzzle vehicle have four-wheel drive?
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 10:55:38 AM
Sorry, I really don't know. Nothing about mentioned in the picture caption
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Post by: sichel on October 30, 2024, 11:08:52 AM
Is it a Mercur without any numbers?
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Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 11:27:31 AM
The caption says: Mercur, then a two-digit-number andone letter. Now I did some rerearch too, and have somedoubts, if 'Mercur' is correct..
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 30, 2024, 02:14:31 PM
Something like 90 D 7.
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 30, 2024, 06:38:10 PM
Yes 90 is correct, but I think there is a mistake happen in my source:
They say , it is a 'Mercur 90 L', but I've never found a 'Mercur 90 L' in my archive. As I know the year of the truck, I think, it should be a 'Mercur S4500'
LOCKED for you to find year and coachbuilder
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: sichel on October 31, 2024, 10:58:27 AM
Let's start with the type designation: As it is an LF 8, i.e. a fairly light fire engine, the 90 hp already fits. According to Mr Regenberg, it was available in the
S 3500 / Sirius and in the S 4500 / Mercur.
The puzzle LF 8 was built three times in 1954 by Jacobs & Sohn in Neunkirchen, Saarland. One example ended up in the Prora Railway and Technology Museum on the island of Rügen. See photo.
We have a Mercur 125 FA, built in 1959, in our fire brigade as a traditional vehicle. We received it from our twin town in 1991 and it was only decommissioned in 1998. From ‘96 to ’98, I drove and operated it on several missions. Second photo
Title: Re: FW #643
Post by: fromwien on October 31, 2024, 05:08:01 PM
Sorry, it took some time to research a little further about the puzzle car. All documetations describe the base truck as 'Magirus Deutz Mercur 90 F'. I tried to find any technical description for such a type and failed. I just want to give it the type-designation, which is undoubtedly possible.
Jacob & Sohn is correct. A new additional point will increase your account balance. Congratulation
Title: Re: SOLVED: FW #643: Magirus Deutz Mercur LF8, Jacob & Sohn, 1954
Post by: sichel on October 31, 2024, 07:18:19 PM
Thank you.