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Title: Solved: GTE 499 - Project by Nial McCabe & Students of West Essex High School
Post by: gte4289 on August 16, 2023, 05:49:15 PM
Please identify this car for a point:
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on August 22, 2023, 12:14:53 PM
Experts?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on August 29, 2023, 03:50:49 AM
Now open to Rookies, Experts, and Pros.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 01:06:49 PM
Open to all.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: pnegyesi on September 06, 2023, 01:25:48 PM
From the US of A?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 01:44:16 PM
From the US of A?
Yep
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 06, 2023, 02:25:42 PM
Homemade ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 02:50:59 PM
Homemade ?
Certainly not a 'professional' build, but not home-built by an individual either.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 06, 2023, 03:21:37 PM
European underpinnings ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 03:47:49 PM
European underpinnings ?
Other than some minor parts, no.
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Post by: oko94 on September 06, 2023, 04:29:01 PM
American underpinnings ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 04:43:12 PM
American underpinnings ?
Bespoke 'chassis' with non-American powertrain.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 06, 2023, 04:50:38 PM
Japanese powertrain ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 06, 2023, 05:36:09 PM
Japanese powertrain ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 12:47:18 AM
Honda engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 01:34:09 AM
Honda engine ?
Not Honda
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Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 01:36:30 AM
Motorbike engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 01:39:24 AM
Motorbike engine ?
No, it was a car engine.
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Post by: pnegyesi on September 07, 2023, 01:43:55 AM
was this a kitcar?
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Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 01:45:37 AM
Toyota engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 01:52:27 AM
Toyota engine ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 01:52:36 AM
was this a kitcar?
No, I'm pretty sure body and frame were built from scratch.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: pnegyesi on September 07, 2023, 02:04:40 AM
made in the 1980s?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 02:07:04 AM
made in the 1980s?
Before that
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 04:04:07 AM
Built between 1970 and 1975 ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 04:11:11 AM
Built between 1970 and 1975 ?
The source says "late 1970s."
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Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 04:36:14 AM
Fiberglass body ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 04:51:29 AM
Fiberglass body ?
I don't know, but I seriously doubt it.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 08:38:00 AM
Homemade ?
Certainly not a 'professional' build, but not home-built by an individual either.

Student project ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 10:51:14 AM
Homemade ?
Certainly not a 'professional' build, but not home-built by an individual either.

Student project ?
Yes, students were involved.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 12:43:39 PM
Was a university involved ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 12:45:25 PM
Was a university involved ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 01:11:23 PM
Was a design school involved ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 01:17:56 PM
Was a design school involved ?
No
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Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 01:59:09 PM
Was any kind of school involved ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 02:09:16 PM
Was any kind of school involved ?
Absolutely
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Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 02:22:10 PM
Engineering school ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 03:39:28 PM
Engineering school ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 03:56:48 PM
Automotive mechanic school ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 04:05:43 PM
Automotive mechanic school ?
No, but closer. I think this may have been something that was either unique to the US, or at least rare/non-existent in Europe (and currently rare/non-existent in the US).
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 07, 2023, 04:10:33 PM
Racing mechanic school ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 04:11:59 PM
Racing mechanic school ?
No, nothing that interesting or specific.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 04:15:35 PM
Automotive mechanic school ?
No, but closer. I think this may have been something that was either unique to the US, or at least rare/non-existent in Europe (and currently rare/non-existent in the US).
I looked it up and it seems to still be common in Australia and parts of Europe, although under a different term than what was commonly used here in the US.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: pnegyesi on September 07, 2023, 04:19:53 PM
Technical Institue?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 07, 2023, 05:08:03 PM
Technical Institue?
No, even more mundane than that. This was a source of low-level, generalized training.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 08, 2023, 03:27:01 AM
Something like a technical high school ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 08, 2023, 03:29:33 AM
Something like a technical high school ?
No, just a regular American high school.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 08, 2023, 11:52:55 AM
Can it be found online ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 08, 2023, 12:02:55 PM
Can it be found online ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: oko94 on September 08, 2023, 12:06:29 PM
Toyota Celica engine ?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 08, 2023, 12:18:20 PM
Toyota Celica engine ?
It was a four cylinder Toyota engine, but I don't know which one.
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: pnegyesi on September 08, 2023, 04:17:20 PM
Was it a high school in California?
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 08, 2023, 06:44:30 PM
Was it a high school in California?
No
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 09, 2023, 12:23:05 AM
Super Seven Replica by Prof. Nial McCabe' Students County College of Morris, Randolph, New Jersey
"Another student project (stored at my house during summer break). Our front-engine Super Seven replica. Chassis built with 2" by 1" steel tube. Early Toyota Corolla drive train (1200 push rod and 4 speed manual). Front suspension was 1968 VW Beetle with brakes re-drilled to accept Toyota pattern. Never raced it.....fun to buzz around the school parking lot (our classes became very popular as a result of these "car projects")"
Title: Re: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 09, 2023, 12:56:32 AM
Super Seven Replica by Prof. Nial McCabe' Students County College of Morris, Randolph, New Jersey
"Another student project (stored at my house during summer break). Our front-engine Super Seven replica. Chassis built with 2" by 1" steel tube. Early Toyota Corolla drive train (1200 push rod and 4 speed manual). Front suspension was 1968 VW Beetle with brakes re-drilled to accept Toyota pattern. Never raced it.....fun to buzz around the school parking lot (our classes became very popular as a result of these "car projects")"
It looks like you found a source where McCabe provides a few more mechanical details than he does in mine. However, in my source, McCabe states that this vehicle was built by students of a different New Jersey school, not County College of Morris in Randolph. LOCKED for you to identify the correct school.

Edit: I found your source. Go back and read the very first sentence on that page. ;)

Also:

Built between 1970 and 1975 ?
The source says "late 1970s."
;)

Something like a technical high school ?
No, just a regular American high school.
;)
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 499
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 09, 2023, 02:30:05 AM
Industrial Arts?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 09, 2023, 02:46:14 AM
Industrial Arts?
That's not the name of the school, that's just a type of class that used to be offered at most US high schools (more commonly referred to as "shop" class and what I was alluding to here (https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/master-autopuzzles/gte-499/msg611733/#msg611733)). What you're looking for is the name of the high school where McCabe taught industrial arts/shop class in the late 1970s. This car was built by the students of that high school.

By the way, I went back to what I believe is your source and searched, but couldn't find the name of the high school mentioned anywhere on that website. You're going to have to look for it elsewhere. My source is still out there!

Still LOCKED for you.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 499
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 09, 2023, 03:21:01 AM
West Essex High School (Wessex)?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 499
Post by: gte4289 on September 09, 2023, 03:36:30 AM
West Essex High School (Wessex)?
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 499
Post by: Oguerrerob on September 09, 2023, 03:37:13 AM
Thank you!!
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 499 - Project by Nial McCabe & Students of West Essex High School
Post by: pnegyesi on September 09, 2023, 06:30:39 AM
nice