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Title: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: gte4289 on March 27, 2025, 12:46:43 AM: Please identify this car for a point.
Title: Re: GTE 803
Post by: gte4289 on March 29, 2025, 04:42:28 PM: Open to Rookies and Experts.
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Post by: gte4289 on April 21, 2025, 07:05:11 PM: Pros?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 19, 2025, 01:52:38 AM: Open to all.
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 12:32:21 PM: European?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 19, 2025, 02:53:47 PM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 12:32:21 PM
European?
Yes
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 03:06:26 PM: British?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 19, 2025, 03:29:36 PM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 03:06:26 PM
British?
No
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Post by: Fёdor on June 19, 2025, 03:48:42 PM: German?
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Post by: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 03:52:22 PM: French?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 19, 2025, 03:55:05 PM: Quote from: Oguerrerob on June 19, 2025, 03:52:22 PM
French?
No
Quote from: Fёdor on June 19, 2025, 03:48:42 PM
German?
Yes
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Post by: Fёdor on June 19, 2025, 11:23:35 PM: Loreley ?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 19, 2025, 11:35:49 PM: Quote from: Fёdor on June 19, 2025, 11:23:35 PM
Loreley ?
No
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Post by: Fёdor on June 20, 2025, 10:52:17 AM: C. Benz & Söhne ?
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Post by: gte4289 on June 20, 2025, 03:04:12 PM: Quote from: Fёdor on June 20, 2025, 10:52:17 AM
C. Benz & Söhne ?
No
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Post by: Fёdor on June 21, 2025, 01:34:48 AM: Lyddi 4-9ps Viersitzer 1909
Title: Re: GTE 803
Post by: gte4289 on June 21, 2025, 02:23:31 AM: Quote from: Fёdor on June 21, 2025, 01:34:48 AM
Lyddi 4-9ps Viersitzer 1909
:thumbsup: Precisely!
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: Fёdor on June 21, 2025, 02:32:20 AM: Thanks for the point
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: Wendax on June 21, 2025, 08:05:35 AM: Now, this got me interested as I hadn't heard of that brand before. After a bit of searching I found out that it was built by the Anhaltische Fahrzeugwerkstätte Robert Krause in Dessau. In my books that company is always said to have built their friction-driven car under the brand Dessavia (Latin for Dessau). We've had a puzzle car identified as Dessavia before: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2023-56/si_536. And I know the book where the identification as a Dessavia comes from. But as you could see in the "Dessavia" thread this motorbike made to look like a car was sold by the Anhaltische Werkstätte as the Elektrik (I also found Elektrikwagen) and isn't friction-driven at all. Searching for Dessavia I did not find any sources from 1907-1910 referring to such a car. I wonder whether the phantom Dessavia was in fact the Lyddi car. But where might the car brand Dessavia have come from?

Below you find two pictures of the 1908 Lyddi 8 PS two-seater and a slightly darker version of the puzzle picture, the Lyddi 9 PS four-seater from 1909. The difference in the engine output may have been for promotional reasons, a 1908 source already states 8.34 PS for the engine.
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: gte4289 on June 21, 2025, 01:54:38 PM: Quote from: Wendax on June 21, 2025, 08:05:35 AM
Now, this got me interested as I hadn't heard of that brand before. After a bit of searching I found out that it was built by the Anhaltische Fahrzeugwerkstätte Robert Krause in Dessau...
I went down the very same rabbit hole when I found the puzzle car and, like you, was unable to find any period evidence for the Dessavia brand.
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: Fёdor on June 22, 2025, 02:55:03 AM: I don't know if these cars in the pictures are related to the Lyddi brand.
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
Post by: Wendax on June 23, 2025, 02:40:58 AM: I would think so.
:thumbsup: