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Title: Solved - NEH 5296: Giaur 750 Sport America
Post by: Carnut on August 24, 2018, 12:29:49 PM
What's this, for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: norberthanke on August 28, 2018, 07:01:46 AM
Pegaso
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on August 28, 2018, 08:50:57 AM
Pegaso

No.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 08, 2018, 06:37:08 AM
Up to the Experts...
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 08, 2018, 07:13:17 AM
British ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 08, 2018, 08:21:55 AM
British ?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 08, 2018, 08:50:43 AM
Italian ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 08, 2018, 10:50:06 AM
Italian ?

Yes!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 08, 2018, 04:58:19 PM
Fiat 500 base (one of many....) ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 08, 2018, 05:32:51 PM
Fiat 500 base (one of many....) ?

Yes, as most were..!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 11, 2018, 05:50:28 PM
I think we are on the 1949 Coppa Toscana, and that is Andreoni in a Fiat Biasci 750.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 11, 2018, 05:52:30 PM
No we are not, had a brain fade, but is it a Fiat Biasci, later known as a Bernadini.?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 12, 2018, 04:04:33 AM
No, not Biasci or Bernadini.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 12, 2018, 06:31:11 PM
Is it from a major league etceterini producer like Siata?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 12, 2018, 07:02:10 PM
Is it from a major league etceterini producer like Siata?

Yes but not Siata and not quite as major as them but still quite well-known.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 13, 2018, 05:00:51 AM
Giaur or even less known ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 13, 2018, 11:09:43 AM
Giaur or even less known ?

It is a Giaur!
Locked for you to see if you can tell me the model.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 13, 2018, 01:51:48 PM
Giaur 750 Sport ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 13, 2018, 02:12:10 PM
Giaur 750 Sport ?

Yes but one more word still missing!
Still locked.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 13, 2018, 02:55:07 PM
Is Champion the missing word ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 13, 2018, 06:36:18 PM
Is Champion the missing word ?

No.
It's a Giaur 750 Sport *********
Have another go.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 14, 2018, 08:56:07 AM
I have to guess, could be Taraschi or Urania. Anyway it's not mentioned in the famous Etceterini book, so I will try 750 Sport cabriolet
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 14, 2018, 09:01:10 AM
No, not that.
Anyone can have a go and you can each have a point..
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: D-type on September 14, 2018, 09:45:07 AM
How ambitious were Giaur?
 Could it be  Giaur 750 Sport Mille Miglia?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 14, 2018, 09:47:30 AM
No, it's just one word missing.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 14, 2018, 10:40:14 AM
Is the missing word Internazionale ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 14, 2018, 10:54:06 AM
Is the missing word Internazionale ?

No.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 14, 2018, 12:45:34 PM
Taraschi ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 14, 2018, 01:24:49 PM
Taraschi ?

No, but you're on the right track.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 14, 2018, 07:17:39 PM
Is it the engine tuner that's missing - like Giannini?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 15, 2018, 04:02:00 AM
Is it the engine tuner that's missing - like Giannini?

No, it's not someone's name.
You'd have to understand the history of this particular car to get the name and why it was called that.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 15, 2018, 07:11:12 AM
Fiat 500 base (one of many....) ?

Yes, as most were..!

Actually this car didn't have a Fiat engine..  Sorry for the misinformation.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 15, 2018, 08:44:04 AM
I must admit I thought this car was a Nardi-BMW 750
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: mekubb on September 15, 2018, 08:53:13 AM
Urania ?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 15, 2018, 10:12:28 AM
It is a Nardi- BMW 750, known as the Nardi Boby. It was however bought by Bernard Taraschi, who had the temerity to race it as a Giaur, the company he owned. In 1952 the car went to the States and was fitted with a Crosley engine - and raced as  Nardi-Crosley!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 15, 2018, 11:32:39 AM
Aha, you've found it!
This picture was taken whilst it was a Giaur though, so I'm still looking for that other part of its name at the time!
Shoud be easy now so locked for tobytwirl.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 15, 2018, 03:12:10 PM
Its full name is 1947 Nardi-Danese 750 Boby Sport. It was never actually a Giaur, it just got erroneously called one for a short period.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 15, 2018, 03:48:08 PM
That's certainly what it started life as in 1947, when it was powered by a BMW motorcycle engine.
But when Berardo Taraschi got hold of it he re-badged is a Giaur and then sold it in 1952 to Frank Dominiannii the US, when the puzzle picture was taken, and at that time it was called the Giaur 750 Sport ******.  Dominianni replaced the engine with a Crosley and continued to race the car, I believe as a Giaur-Nardi.
I can't guarantee all the information is correct but that is my understanding of what I have read.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 16, 2018, 07:05:24 PM
I must admit I cannot find the magic word. There is certainly an interesting story here but one of the players was Tony Pompeo, who imported many european cars and was by all accounts quite a salesman. He knew for example at the time, that a Giaur was a much more saleable proposition than a Nardi. He once imported a Gilco-Moretti as a Giaur Champion, - to which it had a passing resemblance. Did he call the Nardi the same names?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 17, 2018, 04:08:21 AM
No, and I'm beginning to wonder if I've understood the name correctly.
Still, have another go and I'll give you a clue: think geographically!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 17, 2018, 07:30:41 AM
Well Roma and Teramo appear on the badge, and I can just imagine how a salesman in the US would consider adding an Italian sounding name to add to the exotic mystique. How about Dolimiti after its first victory?

I must get that Nardi book!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 17, 2018, 07:32:35 AM
No - wrong side of the pond!
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 17, 2018, 02:27:11 PM
Well its early race career was at Bridgehampton, Watkins Glen and the Giants Despair Hillclimb. I cannot imagine it was named after the latter, how about
the others?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 17, 2018, 05:51:07 PM
Well its early race career was at Bridgehampton, Watkins Glen and the Giants Despair Hillclimb. I cannot imagine it was named after the latter, how about
the others?

No, far less specific to any place.
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: tobytwirl on September 17, 2018, 06:27:54 PM
Guaur 750 America?
Title: Re: NEH 5296
Post by: Carnut on September 18, 2018, 04:09:23 AM
Guaur 750 America?

Yes, that's what it seems to have been called when it first started to compete in the US!
You have your point at last!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5296: Giaur 750 Sport America
Post by: mekubb on September 18, 2018, 02:30:26 PM
Well done tobytwirl. @Carnut, where is my point for guessing the right name and major part of the model ?  ;D
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5296: Giaur 750 Sport America
Post by: Carnut on September 18, 2018, 02:46:25 PM
Well done tobytwirl. @Carnut, where is my point for guessing the right name and major part of the model ?  ;D

I awarded you it at 09.09:57 this morning, exactly 20 seconds before I gave tobytwirl his point!
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5296: Giaur 750 Sport America
Post by: mekubb on September 18, 2018, 04:18:53 PM
Oops.... hadn't noticed ! Thank you sir !