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Title: Barrett's 1002 Solved - Pippbrook Ladybird
Post by: barrett on May 17, 2019, 11:32:56 AM
What is the name of this car, on what was it based and where was it built?
Title: Re: Barrett's 1002
Post by: barrett on June 12, 2019, 07:20:12 AM
Experts
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 12, 2019, 08:43:02 AM
British one-off?
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Post by: barrett on June 12, 2019, 10:40:40 AM
It's British, and supposedly it was offered for sale, but I doubt more than one was built
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Post by: FrontMan on June 12, 2019, 11:12:51 AM
Lloyd base?
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Post by: barrett on June 12, 2019, 04:53:37 PM
Not a Lloyd
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 12, 2019, 09:30:55 PM
any connection to fairley?
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Post by: barrett on June 13, 2019, 04:09:50 AM
I can see a resemblance, but there's no connection
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Post by: richard cuyler on June 15, 2019, 12:26:18 PM
1939 Morris 8 series E base?
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Post by: barrett on June 17, 2019, 10:17:38 AM
Not a Morris
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Post by: tobytwirl on June 20, 2019, 03:31:21 PM
Standard base?
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Post by: kwgibbs on June 20, 2019, 04:03:54 PM
Singer based?
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Post by: Carnut on August 01, 2019, 12:38:56 PM
** Bump **
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Post by: D-type on December 28, 2019, 09:23:23 AM
Can we promote this to the Pros and see if they can put it away?
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Post by: Carnut on December 28, 2019, 09:48:16 AM
Done!
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Post by: Paul Jaray on December 29, 2019, 11:48:25 AM
Austin Seven Humming Bird
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Post by: nicanary on March 20, 2020, 02:46:58 PM
Ford Falcon Special. Merged.
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Post by: barrett on April 01, 2020, 09:14:32 AM
This is interesting. I actually had this photograph listed as showing the mysterious 'Austin Seven Humming Bird'.

This car is, for some reason, the subject of much conjecture. Several experts claim the Humming Bird never existed, and it became a sort of in-joke among Austin Seven special afficianados, almost like Moby Dick, with people occasionally claiminf they'd "found a Humming Bird".

Nevertheless, the car was definitely advertised and most likely built, at Pipbrook Garage in Dorking, but there is no further evidence of it than that. This photograph purports to show one, but since I posted it all that time ago I have discovered the advertisements for the 'Ford Falcon' special which clearly show the same car. I'm now of the opinion that the original photogrpah of the 'Humming Bird' is another prank by an Austin Seven enthusiast who was in on the joke....!

Nevertheless, I'm going to give Paul Jaray an extra point for discovering the (contested identity)
Title: NEH 5631
Post by: Carnut on January 20, 2021, 12:30:37 PM
What's this, by whom, based on what - for 1 point?:

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Post by: sichel on February 01, 2021, 03:31:33 PM
Dyna-Veritas?
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Post by: Carnut on February 01, 2021, 05:22:06 PM
No connection, sorry.
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Post by: Carnut on February 02, 2021, 06:00:32 AM
Experts?
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Post by: D-type on February 02, 2021, 08:55:07 AM
Any HRG connection?
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Post by: Carnut on February 02, 2021, 09:44:22 AM
None at all!
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Post by: FrontMan on February 02, 2021, 10:00:04 AM
Lloyd 650 ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 02, 2021, 12:24:50 PM
No, not a Lloyd.
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Post by: mekubb on February 02, 2021, 02:35:43 PM
From Italy ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 02, 2021, 05:24:56 PM
No..
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Post by: knewit on February 04, 2021, 06:01:16 AM
Based on aFIAT chassis built by Blasl Huber in the early 50s at his Chimsee workshop
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Post by: Carnut on February 04, 2021, 09:12:01 AM
No..
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Post by: FrontMan on February 07, 2021, 12:37:08 PM
Standard Eight ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 07, 2021, 02:24:28 PM
No Standard bits that I'm aware of...
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Post by: SACO on February 10, 2021, 02:13:57 PM
Ford Falcon special 1951 ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 10, 2021, 02:22:25 PM
No Ford bits that I'm aware of!
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Post by: FrontMan on February 14, 2021, 06:41:35 AM
Jowett base ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 14, 2021, 07:35:02 AM
No.
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Post by: mekubb on February 14, 2021, 10:06:43 AM
From UK ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 14, 2021, 05:20:11 PM
Yes.
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Post by: FrontMan on February 14, 2021, 05:40:40 PM
MG base ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 15, 2021, 06:54:48 AM
No..
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Post by: FrontMan on February 15, 2021, 12:15:42 PM
Singer 9 base ?
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Post by: Carnut on February 15, 2021, 01:38:57 PM
No Singer bits that I know of..
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Post by: sichel on February 27, 2021, 03:45:20 PM
Bristol base?
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Post by: Carnut on February 27, 2021, 05:51:00 PM
No.
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Post by: D-type on February 28, 2021, 09:37:01 AM
Ford base?
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Post by: Carnut on February 28, 2021, 05:20:09 PM
No Ford bits that I'm aware of!

Ford base?

Still not Ford according to information I have!
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Post by: nicanary on March 01, 2021, 06:40:24 AM
No Ford bits that I'm aware of!

Ford base?

Still not Ford according to information I have!

These modern times are different - perhaps it identifies as a Ford  ;D
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Post by: max on March 01, 2021, 09:19:14 AM
BSA Scout replacement prototype?
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Post by: Carnut on March 01, 2021, 03:02:39 PM
No..
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Post by: BattlePorQ on March 03, 2021, 06:10:24 AM
Austin 8 based?
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Post by: Carnut on March 03, 2021, 08:01:02 AM
Austin but not 8..
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Post by: BattlePorQ on March 04, 2021, 08:06:09 AM
Shortened larger one kind of 'Ten'?
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Post by: Carnut on March 04, 2021, 10:53:28 AM
No, smaller than an 8..
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Post by: D-type on March 04, 2021, 10:56:51 AM
Surely not a common or garden Austin Seven?

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Post by: Carnut on March 04, 2021, 11:00:04 AM
So my information says, yes.
I think the same body was used for more than one mechanical base..
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Post by: Johno on March 23, 2021, 03:57:44 PM
Two months since the first post I'm going to bag this.  Its a Pippbrook Ladybird, based on an Austin Seven chassis. Built at Pippbrook garage Dorking probably by Guy Jason Henry not far from Rob Walker's racing team. The garage building now forms part of Dorking Museum.
Title: Solved - NEH 5631: Austin Seven based Pippbrook Ladybird by Pippbrook Garage
Post by: Carnut on March 23, 2021, 04:22:20 PM
That is indeed the answer I was looking for, so you've earned your point!

But mystery does seem to surround this car.
Another car with a very similar body (but different around the front) was posted in SAC#868 and was identified as a Ford Falcon Special, and an advertisement for it describing it as exactly that is shown within the thread, although it is clearly not a Falcon shell, as intimated by nicanary, so I've no idea why it was called a Ford Falcon Special. Maybe someone just thought it sounded good!

But the same car I posted was also posted in Barrett's 1002 and was identified by PJ as a Humming Bird, but then that puzzle was merged with SAC#868, which in my opinion it shouldn't have been as it's a different car, based on an Austin 7.
As can be seen from the picture below, my puzzle is the same car as Barrett's, with the same registration number, but a different car from SACO's, with a different registration number.
Perhaps more information has come to light since Barrett's puzzle but I'm going to assume my information is correct, demerge Barrett's puzzle from SACO's and merge my puzzle with his!