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Title: Solved - NEH 5693: Giron Alvis built on Speed 20 chassis/Speed 25 engine mid-late 1970s
Post by: Carnut on December 07, 2023, 11:51:02 AM
What's this, powered by what and built by whom, when?
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Post by: Carnut on January 27, 2024, 11:15:55 AM
Experts?
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Post by: D-type on February 08, 2024, 10:28:56 AM
Australian?
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Post by: Carnut on March 06, 2024, 06:03:11 AM
Not Australian (sorry for the delayed reply!)
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Post by: knewit on March 06, 2024, 10:27:43 AM
South African
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Post by: knewit on March 06, 2024, 10:28:52 AM
based on an MG
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Post by: Carnut on March 07, 2024, 09:03:48 AM
Neither South African nor MG-based.
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Post by: D-type on March 07, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
The obvious:  British?
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Post by: BERTRAND on March 07, 2024, 10:29:14 AM
German?
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Post by: Carnut on March 08, 2024, 09:29:10 AM
Quote from: D-type on March 07, 2024, 09:35:54 AM
The obvious:  British?

Yes

Quote from: BERTRAND on March 07, 2024, 10:29:14 AM
German?

Therefore No!
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Post by: D-type on March 09, 2024, 01:13:20 PM
4-cylinder?
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Post by: Carnut on March 10, 2024, 09:05:12 AM
No.
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Post by: Johno on March 10, 2024, 04:04:32 PM
Offenhauser power?
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Post by: Carnut on March 11, 2024, 11:19:59 AM
No.
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Post by: D-type on March 11, 2024, 11:26:47 AM
V8 engine?
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Post by: Carnut on March 12, 2024, 07:08:20 AM
No..
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Post by: sichel on March 12, 2024, 03:36:37 PM
8 cylinder in-line
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Post by: Carnut on March 14, 2024, 05:42:49 AM
Not an 8-cylinder engine..
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Post by: D-type on March 14, 2024, 07:25:24 AM
Is it a 6-cylinder?  (Despite the 4-branch exhaust)
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Post by: Carnut on March 15, 2024, 07:44:00 AM
Yes it is. I thought it a bit odd too...
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Post by: D-type on March 15, 2024, 06:33:26 PM
Is it the Challenge/ Challenger?
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Post by: Carnut on March 18, 2024, 06:16:29 AM
I'm afraid it isn't, no.
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Post by: D-type on March 19, 2024, 03:08:14 PM
I'm still trying to get my head around the 6-cylinder engine, is it Bristol powered?
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Post by: Carnut on March 20, 2024, 07:02:45 AM
No, not Bristol.
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Post by: D-type on March 20, 2024, 10:48:21 AM
A British six?  Aston Martin?
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Post by: Carnut on March 21, 2024, 07:55:46 AM
British yes, but not Aston Martin.
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Post by: D-type on March 21, 2024, 02:49:41 PM
Jaguar?
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Post by: Carnut on March 22, 2024, 07:34:11 AM
Quote from: D-type on March 21, 2024, 02:49:41 PM
Jaguar?

No..
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Post by: D-type on March 23, 2024, 05:26:25 PM
Ford?
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Post by: Carnut on March 24, 2024, 11:58:03 AM
Quote from: D-type on March 23, 2024, 05:26:25 PM
Ford?

No..
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Post by: sichel on March 24, 2024, 01:43:58 PM
BMC?
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Post by: D-type on March 24, 2024, 05:31:39 PM
Riley?
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Post by: Carnut on March 25, 2024, 09:04:21 AM
Quote from: sichel on March 24, 2024, 01:43:58 PM
BMC?

No..

Quote from: D-type on March 24, 2024, 05:31:39 PM
Riley?

..and No.
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Post by: D-type on March 25, 2024, 04:09:18 PM
ERA?
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Post by: Carnut on March 26, 2024, 08:59:29 AM
No..
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Post by: D-type on March 27, 2024, 07:10:20 AM
British 6-cylinder engine.
Not:
MG
Bristol
Aston Martin
Jaguar
Ford
BMC
Riley
ERA

Who's left?
Vauxhall?
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Post by: Carnut on March 27, 2024, 07:17:38 AM
Not Vauxhall!
Who's left? The one the engine is from!
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Post by: Lavrakas on March 27, 2024, 01:42:32 PM
An interesting puzzle. The photograph  looks modern. It is racing on a track rather than a hill climb. I can't imagine what category it would be racing in. It has semi-elliptics all round but with an extra radius rod at the back; wheels, tyres and brakes all rather odd. As for the engine, I would guess at Alvis, but really I haven't a clue. Further thoughts later..
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Post by: Lavrakas on March 27, 2024, 02:07:52 PM
Rod Jolley Alvis Giron 1988.
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Post by: Lavrakas on March 27, 2024, 02:23:08 PM
Earlier. Possibly late 70s conversion from a 1932 Speed 20 chassis with a supercharged 4.3 engine. This photo is dated June 1984.
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Post by: Carnut on March 28, 2024, 12:55:54 PM
Yes, well done - that's the car.
It was named after Louis Giron, one-time engineer at Bugatti but latterly a technical consultant at the National Motor Museum, Beaulieu.
He was involved in the design and building of the car with Rod Jolley on a spare Alvis Speed 20 chassis they had lying around, but sadly died just a couple of weeks after it was first finished in the mid to late 1970s.
It was subsequently much modified to get it to handle and go properly and its final appearance was fairly different by the mid 1980s.
One point for Lavrakas and bad luck D-Type.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5693: Giron Alvis built on Speed 20 chassis/Speed 25 engine mid-late 1970s
Post by: nicanary on March 28, 2024, 02:31:26 PM
I was waiting for that one - I can''t understand what took so long. It's very similar to the Goodwin Special Alvis.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5693: Giron Alvis built on Speed 20 chassis/Speed 25 engine mid-late 1970s
Post by: D-type on March 31, 2024, 05:08:10 PM
I would never have thought of an Alvis engine.  Well done Lavrakas