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Title: Solved: PN #1156 -- Talbot piloted by Albert Divo, 1923
Post by: pnegyesi on September 09, 2018, 12:06:23 PM
Please ID this car for a point - brand and year will be enough
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: norberthanke on September 10, 2018, 04:29:15 AM
Napier
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 10, 2018, 06:04:58 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 16, 2018, 08:43:54 AM
Experts?
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 16, 2018, 09:51:51 AM
French
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 16, 2018, 01:55:14 PM
yes
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 16, 2018, 03:38:25 PM
1926 year
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 16, 2018, 03:39:05 PM
earlier
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 16, 2018, 03:52:48 PM

 1922
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 16, 2018, 03:53:41 PM
somewhere in between :)
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 16, 2018, 03:59:02 PM
1924
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 16, 2018, 04:20:43 PM
well, let's just say, between 1922-1924

:) :)
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 19, 2018, 12:52:55 PM
Defrance
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 19, 2018, 12:54:17 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Mogul on September 20, 2018, 03:54:08 AM
Salmson AL3
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 20, 2018, 05:18:39 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Allan L on September 21, 2018, 06:05:36 AM
It looks a bit tall for a Rolland-Pilain but I'll try that anyway
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 21, 2018, 11:36:59 AM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: D-type on September 26, 2018, 01:02:10 PM
Eliminate the obvious:  un Amilcar?
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 26, 2018, 01:37:26 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: D-type on September 27, 2018, 02:19:31 PM
Is it a Cottin-Desgouttes?
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 27, 2018, 03:06:08 PM
no
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: Fёdor on September 27, 2018, 03:35:09 PM
Talbot-Darracq
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: gte4289 on September 27, 2018, 08:49:24 PM
Talbot piloted by Albert Divo at the Grand Prix de Penya-Rhin on October 21, 1923. Designed and engineered by Vincenzo Bertarione and Walter Becchia.

Edit: I see that Fёdor stated "Talbot-Darracq" above. This car very well could have worn a "Talbot-Darracq" badge, so feel free to award the point to Fёdor if appropriate.
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: gte4289 on September 27, 2018, 08:59:10 PM
Here is a better look at this machine, as driven by Divo in the Coupes des Voiturettes at Le Mans on September 23, 1923:
Title: Re: PN #1156
Post by: pnegyesi on September 28, 2018, 11:15:29 PM
Though Fedor was the first one, both of you get a point for your efforts. But in the future please look at the list of answers before you submit yours :)! Thank you
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1156 -- Talbot piloted by Albert Divo, 1923
Post by: Fёdor on September 29, 2018, 03:19:27 AM
Thanks for the point
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1156 -- Talbot piloted by Albert Divo, 1923
Post by: D-type on September 29, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
I'm confused.  In 1923 would it have been a Talbot or a Talbot-Darracq?
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1156 -- Talbot piloted by Albert Divo, 1923
Post by: nicanary on September 29, 2018, 04:26:36 PM
Quote from: D-type on September 29, 2018, 02:17:04 PM
I'm confused.  In 1923 would it have been a Talbot or a Talbot-Darracq?

William Court reckons Talbot-Darracq, but Georgano points out in his encyclopedia that the name changed according to the country in which the cars were racing. He also says the general rule was that if the engine was under 1500cc it was always just Talbot. This voiturette would have been 1100cc, so presumably it's a Talbot.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #1156 -- Talbot piloted by Albert Divo, 1923
Post by: pnegyesi on September 29, 2018, 11:18:28 PM
Yes, it was a Talbot. I did not have time to reply to Fedor before the even more detailed reply has arrived