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PN #1193
« on: December 09, 2018, 06:40:17 AM »
Please ID chassis, coachbuilder and year for a point
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2018, 08:15:59 AM »
Experts?
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2018, 08:23:31 PM »
Mercedes chassis?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2018, 11:34:17 PM »
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2018, 06:15:47 AM »
Spohn

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2018, 06:32:01 AM »
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2018, 07:46:54 AM »
pre-war chassis?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2018, 12:18:16 PM »
yes
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2018, 12:40:07 PM »
A Horch maybe?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2018, 03:30:55 PM »
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2018, 04:56:34 PM »
upper is pure Borgward 1800, hte modell before the Isabella - my first vintage car!

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2018, 12:05:42 AM »
sorry, but this has got nothing to do with Borgward
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2018, 05:28:07 AM »
Fiat 508 C based?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2018, 11:16:42 AM »
Is it German?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2018, 12:47:01 PM »
it is entirely German. Not based on a Fiat 508
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 03:28:31 PM »
Is the base from the Auto Union group - Audi or Wanderer?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2018, 08:40:11 PM »
So far so good, it was based on a Wanderer
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2018, 10:10:39 PM »
Any connection to Gottlob Espenlaub?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #18 on: December 23, 2018, 11:03:25 AM »
nothing
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #19 on: December 23, 2018, 11:20:55 AM »
This bodywork is presumably the work of a small coachbuilder or even an amateur, because it undoubtably incorporates the cabin of a Borgward Hansa 1500, and even the bonnet, which characteristically never seemed to be closed properly on the Borgwards. There were always 2 little somethings on each side which were visible in the gap - and sure enough there is one of them visible on the puzzle car. The front and external trim are of course not from a Borgward, and the bonnet has been cut down at the front. So I am thinking it was built around 1953 but once Spohn has gone, I had no idea who did it - Rappold?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #20 on: December 23, 2018, 11:40:25 AM »
Nice assumption. The car was built in 1951. The builder was claimed to be a Karosseriebaumeister, but I don't have too much info on him
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2018, 08:27:49 AM »
Is it definitely on the 'net somewhere?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2018, 10:07:25 AM »
To be completely honest, I did not find anything on him yet
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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #23 on: December 28, 2018, 06:07:10 PM »
So is the photo of the car on internet?

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Re: PN #1193
« Reply #24 on: December 29, 2018, 01:21:48 AM »
no
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