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Title: SOLVED: si_359 - Henschel - Bimot HS 190 - by Spermann - 1950-1951
Post by: sichel on December 01, 2022, 07:09:07 PM
Delicious things are transported here. I'll tell you what they are when I solve the puzzle.
But we need to know who made the base, what type it was and when and by whom the body was made.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 08, 2022, 04:39:59 PM
Up to Experts.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 08, 2022, 06:15:10 PM
Is this another Krupp Schaperjahn truck?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 09, 2022, 04:25:28 PM
No.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 09, 2022, 05:15:40 PM
Deutz?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 09, 2022, 05:16:18 PM
No.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 09, 2022, 05:22:28 PM
Magirus?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 10, 2022, 03:08:31 PM
No.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 12, 2022, 02:43:23 PM
Henschel?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 13, 2022, 03:49:19 AM
Yes
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 14, 2022, 10:44:25 AM
HS 140 bodied by Kässbohrer?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 14, 2022, 11:24:13 AM
No
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 15, 2022, 02:51:47 PM
Harmening?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 15, 2022, 03:05:53 PM
Neither HS 140 nor Harmening
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 16, 2022, 10:02:55 AM
Gaubschat body?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 16, 2022, 10:43:03 AM
HS 190?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 17, 2022, 08:02:47 AM
Yes, it is a HS 190. Locked for you to name the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 18, 2022, 08:45:24 PM
Is this the HS 190 that was originally a bus?  I'm finding only the one Kässbohrer bus and the three ESSO articulated tankers.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 19, 2022, 05:09:45 AM
There were the three Esso tractor units (HS 190 S) and eight chassis (HS 190). These were fitted with bus bodies and at least one truck body. I know of four different body manufacturers.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 19, 2022, 10:13:20 PM
FAKA?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 20, 2022, 03:59:01 AM
No
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 20, 2022, 11:00:31 AM
Drauz?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 20, 2022, 04:28:32 PM
Not Drauz!

I found a mention on a very credible site of:

"a vehicle with a box body for Brandt-Zwieback was body-built by Kässbohrer on an HS 190 N chassis". (Sorry, machine translation.)

Is that this one?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 21, 2022, 05:56:52 PM
Yes, it's a truck for "Brandt-Zwieback". But the body is not from Kässbohrer, although it looks very similar to the Kässbohrer bus.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 21, 2022, 06:06:20 PM
Lampferhoff?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 21, 2022, 06:14:14 PM
No.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 21, 2022, 06:22:27 PM
E.H. von Lienen?  The only four I have found are Kässbohrer, FAKA, Lamperhoff, and Lienen.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 21, 2022, 07:04:35 PM
Sorry, but there is one more.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 21, 2022, 09:45:23 PM
Could it be the relatively near-to-Brandt-in-Hagen company of Ludewig in Essen, who later built bus bodies on Henschel chassis? (There are a few more coachbuilders in this region, am I getting close?)
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 08:34:08 AM
It's not Ludewig, but you're close. North Rhine-Westphalia is the right region.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 09:34:28 AM
Fahrzeuge Recklinghausen?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 09:37:50 AM
No,go east for about 40 kilometres.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 09:53:22 AM
Bönen?  Or Hamm?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 10:20:18 AM
Neither nor.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 10:29:23 AM
Kamen or Bergkamen?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 11:01:57 AM
Approx. 10 kilometres to the north
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 11:15:00 AM
Werne?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 02:45:53 PM
Yes, then I'll lock so you can look for the coachbuilder.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 06:02:14 PM
Spermann?
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 22, 2022, 06:32:54 PM
Yes, you will get the point later, I go to bed.
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: marmer on December 22, 2022, 06:39:21 PM
Sleep well!  That was hard!
Title: Re: si_359
Post by: sichel on December 23, 2022, 10:13:36 AM
Hey marmer, here is your point! You've really earned it!  :applause:
There are not many sources that depict this particular version. There were only eleven examples in total: eight bus chassis (on one of which the "Brandt truck" was built) and three tractor units. The two coupled, transversely mounted 95 hp engines could probably not be reliably synchronised. I attach a picture with a view of the left engine.
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_359 - Henschel - Bimot HS 190 - by Spermann - 1950-1951
Post by: pguillem on December 23, 2022, 11:15:43 AM
Is it the same as the BÜcherbus from Gladbeck ?
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_359 - Henschel - Bimot HS 190 - by Spermann - 1950-1951
Post by: sichel on December 23, 2022, 11:56:56 AM
Thank you for this picture, I didn't know him yet. But that is Kässbohrer and not Spermann. The shape is very similar to the Kässbhrer Bimot (I'll add a picture), but it lacks the maintenance flaps on the sides and there's one too many stars on the bonnet...My guess is Mercedes O/OP between 3500 and 6600. Judging by the tyre size, more likely 5000 or 6600, but that's a bit like reading in a crystal ball.