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Title: SOLVED: si_52 - Gilera - Tricycle - 1939
Post by: sichel on August 17, 2021, 07:16:09 PM
I can also ride a tricycle ;) But who is the manufactorer and when was it built? One point for this answers. Unfortunately, my source also don't gives the exact type designation, but I have an idea.
Title: Re: si_52
Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 06:13:48 AM
Up to the (supposed  ;) experts.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 08:00:28 AM
Italy ?
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 08:54:14 AM
Yes!
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 09:26:42 AM
still active
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 09:33:24 AM
Yes, with some ups and downs.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 10:27:53 AM
Mondial Boselli
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 11:02:22 AM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 12:17:12 PM
MV Agusta
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 12:23:06 PM
No, but there is a connection.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 12:33:19 PM
Ducati
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 12:38:15 PM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 12:42:09 PM
Cagiva ?
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 01:09:29 PM
No.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 02:29:14 PM
Moto Guzzy
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 02:37:29 PM
No. Just think of the horizontal single-cylinder Guzzi...
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 24, 2021, 03:18:47 PM
Benelli  :scratch:
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Post by: sichel on August 24, 2021, 03:31:49 PM
No. With my comment I meant that it cannot be a Guzzi because of the standing cylinder. Sorry if i got you confused.
Title: Re: si_52
Post by: Bill d isere on August 26, 2021, 02:31:00 AM
It was not you who gave me the wrong information, but the online translator who does not understand anything in old mechanics  ;D

Morini ?
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Post by: sichel on August 26, 2021, 03:23:51 AM
No. there's not much left now... ;)
Btw: I use linguee for translation problems.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 26, 2021, 02:30:21 PM
Aprilia
I am using Google Trad. He is sometimes wacky, but at least we understand each other  :lmao:
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Post by: sichel on August 26, 2021, 02:49:39 PM
I'm sorry, neither.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 27, 2021, 04:43:42 AM
Gilera ?
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Post by: sichel on August 27, 2021, 04:54:39 AM
At last :) Locked to name the year of the performance. Outside the rating: Do you have any ideas about the model on which the tricycle is based? Do you know what the connection is between Gilera andMV Agusta?
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 27, 2021, 05:58:10 AM
1940s Gilera Mercurio 500 or 600
The engine is maybe the one studied by Piero Remor before being made redundant, then hired by MV Agusta?
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Post by: sichel on August 27, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
In my source, a magazine, the picture appeared earlier. Probably it was a predecessor model, of the Mercurio. For example, the engine block looks like a other model. Please search for another date.
To the connection between Gilera and MV Agusta: Piero Remor and Carlo Gianini developed in 1923 the first transverse 4-cylinder racing engine for motorbikes. In 1935 Gilera took over the project, the famous "Rondine". Due to the ban on compressors after the Second World War, Remor had to overhaul the engine. Due to various problems with and at Gilera, he changed in 1949 to MV Agusta. He is said to have forgotten, to take the blueprints of the 500/4 engine out of his file cabinet....
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 27, 2021, 10:53:13 AM
Motocarrozzetta Gilera "Marte" 500cc
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Post by: sichel on August 27, 2021, 11:25:35 AM
No, Marte had a different engine.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 27, 2021, 12:23:03 PM
150 CC
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Post by: sichel on August 27, 2021, 02:27:26 PM
?? We're talking past each other right now, aren't we? I am just waiting for the date for presentation of this Mercurio pre-series version,
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 27, 2021, 03:42:04 PM
I thought you were asking me for the specific name of this version ...
For the year, it must be 1938
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Post by: sichel on August 27, 2021, 03:45:17 PM
...or a little bit later. I think specific name was never asked.
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Post by: Bill d isere on August 28, 2021, 03:22:25 AM
1939
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Post by: sichel on August 28, 2021, 04:04:46 AM
Yes, this is your next point! Sorry for the missunderstansing, I don't know the name myself. It seems to be a protype whose engine is based on the Gilera Saturno. For the series it was probably too elaborate and too expensive. Does one of our Italy experts know more?
And then, on this occasion, the story had to be told of how the Conte Agusta got its successful racing engines.
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_52 - Gilera - Tricycle - 1939
Post by: Bill d isere on August 28, 2021, 05:48:41 AM
Perfect !
Beautiful piece to guess and beautiful machine