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Solved: PN #1908 -- Cheetah CJY6420A
« on: March 30, 2025, 09:29:25 AM »
There are two points on offer for this puzzle.
1, Please identify brand, manufacturer and model
2, Tell me why this car was particulary important?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2025, 01:56:39 AM »
Experts?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2025, 02:09:05 PM »
Any connection to the Isuzu Trooper?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2025, 04:36:38 PM »
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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2025, 05:49:25 PM »
Any connection to Matra Rancho?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #5 on: April 18, 2025, 11:56:08 AM »
none

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2025, 05:58:24 PM »
Any Fiat connection?
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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2025, 01:10:00 PM »
nothing

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2025, 04:14:32 PM »
Professionals?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2025, 01:23:33 AM »
Masters?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2025, 02:06:16 AM »
Chjnese?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2025, 02:20:41 AM »
yes

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2025, 02:35:08 AM »
Bamin BM2022A?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2025, 03:58:09 AM »
not Bamin
not 2022

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #14 on: May 04, 2025, 06:24:45 AM »
Cheetah CJY6420A 1992 China. Mitsubishi Pajero licensed for Changfeng, even for military use
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 06:35:18 AM by Oguerrerob »

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #15 on: May 04, 2025, 08:35:19 AM »
that's the first point - nicely identified.

Now would you like to go for the 2nd point?

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #16 on: May 04, 2025, 08:44:03 AM »
Quote
In 1987 Bamin produced a new SUV based on the BJ212. This car was developed by several PLA factories together and got the common designation CJY6420. Bamin used both the CJY and the BM designation for the same car.
Was it important because it was developed by several PLA factories together?  ;)
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 09:16:59 AM by Wendax »

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #17 on: May 04, 2025, 09:47:40 AM »
no, and it was definitely not produced by Bamin. I know Erik's work, but this was not done by them

BTW Oguerrerob was only partly right.  This is called the Cheetah CJY6420A, but this part is not correct: "Mitsubishi Pajero licensed for Changfeng, even for military use". The Mitsubishi Pajero licence came later.

So we know this is the Cheetah CJY6420  built by PLA 7319 factory, later known as Changfeng.

Now, why was this particular model special? The 2nd point is still out there

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2025, 10:19:33 AM »
The first car developed by PLA 7319 ? (Also this car was exported to Peru and Gambia)
« Last Edit: May 04, 2025, 10:26:40 AM by Oguerrerob »

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2025, 01:49:14 PM »
Translation from an Chinese site:

Changfeng CJY6420A

Command offroad-vehicle for the army, called Changfeng CJY6420A (Codename Liebao, which means Cheetah), based on the Beijing jeep and sold to the military and government services only. The car itself wasn’t developed by Changfeng, but by another PLA factory in Fujian province, called Bamin. in In 1992, Changfeng bought some machinery for the modernization of the production line from Mitsubishi. This was the first contact with the Japanese company, and formed the basis for the development of the Liebao brand. Li Jianxin identified the Japanese company as a possible partner and negotiations about cooperation started shortly after. In December 1994, the two companies entered into a technical partnership and Changfeng acquired the technology of the second-generation Mitsubishi Pajero, the model that debuted in 1991. Trial production of the car in China started in 1995.

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Re: PN #1908
« Reply #20 on: May 04, 2025, 04:46:44 PM »
This car was exported to Peru and Gambia

Thanks fromwien for the additional information

Oguerrerob found the solution - one of the few Chinese cars of the time which was actually exported.


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Re: Solved: PN #1908 -- Cheetah CJY6420A
« Reply #21 on: May 04, 2025, 04:58:26 PM »
Thank you!!