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Title: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: gte4289 on November 19, 2024, 09:20:19 PM
Please identify this car for a point:
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on November 22, 2024, 01:18:09 PM
Open to Rookies and Experts.
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: Shamrock 2 on November 22, 2024, 03:33:30 PM
Blue and white stripes is it French.?
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on November 22, 2024, 03:44:44 PM
Quote from: Shamrock 2 on November 22, 2024, 03:33:30 PM
Blue and white stripes is it French.?
Not French
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: D-type on November 22, 2024, 05:49:30 PM
A US owned Maserati?
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on November 22, 2024, 06:11:02 PM
Quote from: D-type on November 22, 2024, 05:49:30 PM
A US owned Maserati?
No
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on December 28, 2024, 06:29:04 PM
Open to Rookies, Experts, and Professionals.
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 05:43:50 AM
Mod -H racer ?
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on December 29, 2024, 07:18:52 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 05:43:50 AM
Mod -H racer ?
No
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 08:29:02 AM
From Down Under ?
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on December 29, 2024, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 08:29:02 AM
From Down Under ?
Yes
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on December 29, 2024, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 08:29:02 AM
From Down Under ?
Yes

The pink Cresta PA was the clue  ;D
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on December 29, 2024, 12:41:00 PM
Quote from: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 09:28:37 AM
Quote from: gte4289 on December 29, 2024, 08:38:40 AM
Quote from: nicanary on December 29, 2024, 08:29:02 AM
From Down Under ?
Yes

The pink Cresta PA was the clue  ;D
Good eye ;D
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 03:20:05 PM
Open to all.
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 06:27:13 PM
Elin Sports built by Graeme Amos, NZ
Title: Re: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 07:00:26 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 06:27:13 PM
Elin Sports built by Graeme Amos, NZ
Yes, this is one of several Amos cars that are referred to as 'Elin'. It's difficult to distinguish between them--not only because he reused the same chassis for two or three Elin versions, but also because even the people who knew Amos and raced with him contradict each other when it comes to the details about his cars.

For the point, all I'm asking is that you identify the brand of the donor car. I have the entry list from the event where this photo was taken and the car is identified as "______ Sports," with the blank space being the donor brand.

LOCKED for you.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 07:43:35 PM
Humber?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 07:53:41 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 07:43:35 PM
Humber?
No
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:00:25 PM
Singer?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 08:05:12 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:00:25 PM
Singer?
No
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:06:28 PM
Austin?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 08:09:55 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:06:28 PM
Austin?
No, but close.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:21:01 PM
Wolseley?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 08:22:48 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:21:01 PM
Woleseley?
No, but still close.
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:24:04 PM
Morris?
Title: Re: LOCKED: GTE 681
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 08:30:49 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:24:04 PM
Morris?
That's the one. I assume it was powered by a Morris Minor 1000 motor (948 cc).

It looks as though you found the source stating he'd used a Humber chassis, but keep digging and you'll find conflicting stories about the chassis everywhere. I figured I'd just take that out of the puzzle equation altogether.
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:38:48 PM
Thank you for puzzle and point.
I have three different sources found, one says the donor car is a Humber 80 (Australian Hillman Minx), the next one mentions Singer-Austin (whatever this should be..) and the third one says Wolseley 10.. crazy, or?
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: gte4289 on January 19, 2025, 08:48:37 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 19, 2025, 08:38:48 PM
I have three different sources found, one says the donor car is a Humber 80 (Australian Hillman Minx), the next one mentions Singer-Austin (whatever this should be..) and the third one says Wolseley 10.. crazy, or?
Yep, crazy.
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: fromwien on January 22, 2025, 11:27:11 AM
This car is still a miracle for me: Teretunga 1965
May be this is only a typo and the meant 'Elin'
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: gte4289 on January 22, 2025, 11:31:57 AM
1497 cc? Are these even the same car? Did he toss a motorcycle engine into the boot? ???
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: fromwien on January 22, 2025, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 22, 2025, 11:31:57 AM
1497 cc? Are these even the same car? Did he toss a motorcycle engine into the boot? ???
Are these even the same car?
Think so; 'Clin' sounds like 'Elin' (with only an typo), and the vehicle's colours (blue/white) and driver Amos are correct
Title: Re: Solved: GTE 681 - Morris Sports (aka Elin) of Graham 'Wop' Amos, Tahuna Beach, 1965
Post by: gte4289 on January 22, 2025, 05:14:40 PM
Quote from: fromwien on January 22, 2025, 04:39:27 PM
Quote from: gte4289 on January 22, 2025, 11:31:57 AM
1497 cc? Are these even the same car? Did he toss a motorcycle engine into the boot? ???
Are these even the same car?
Think so; 'Clin' sounds like 'Elin' (with only an typo), and the vehicle's colours (blue/white) and driver Amos are correct
All of Amos' cars were called "Elin," and I imagine two of them could have been blue/white.

I'm just curious if he was running two different cars in 1965, if it was the same car with different motors, or if he lied about the motor to compete in a class for which his car wasn't qualified. Of course, it could be as simple as an error in one of the two programs.