Please identify this car (make and coachbuiilder) for a point.
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Looks French to me. Am I right?
Quote from: Wendax on February 19, 2025, 02:38:04 AM
Looks French to me. Am I right?
I see what you mean, but it's not French.
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The book where you found this drawing says it is a 1929 MÁG Magosix sports. The text also claims it was raced by C.C. Friese.
C.C. Friese was an Austrian racer, he last raced a Magosix in 1927.
The whole drawing is based on an ad from 1929 which shows a Magosix sports. There was no other mention of this version anywhere.
This book is not very reliable when it comes to Hungarian cars.
A photo from which this drawing was taken claims it as a 1927 Magomobil Sport.
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 20, 2025, 10:19:51 AM
The book where you found this drawing says it is a 1929 MÁG Magosix sports. The text also claims it was raced by C.C. Friese.
C.C. Friese was an Austrian racer, he last raced a Magosix in 1927.
The whole drawing is based on an ad from 1929 which shows a Magosix sports. There was no other mention of this version anywhere.
This book is not very reliable when it comes to Hungarian cars.
When I created this puzzle, I was certain of two things: 1) you were the person who would solve it, and 2) you would have additional information to add. The point is yours!
I didn't find this drawing in a book. My source was an article that appeared in a quarterly publication of an organization, of which I believe you and I are both members. The author describes this car as a "speedster" by C. C. Friese on a MÁG chassis, with no mention of year or model type. He identifies Friese as a Budapest-based coachbuilder and states that he also bodied a MÁG touring car.
Quote from: nicanary on February 20, 2025, 10:44:55 AM
A photo from which this drawing was taken claims it as a 1927 Magomobil Sport.
Please post the photo; I would love to see it!
Edit: I forgot to mention that the source article includes an interesting note from the editor ;) (see image
gte727c below).
As requested, but not from the site where I found it.
Quote from: nicanary on February 20, 2025, 02:07:38 PM
As requested, but not from the site where I found it.
Thanks!
Yes, definitely the basis for the drawing. :thumbsup:
The Haris brothers were cheaters, they forged documents, cars etc.
And I was looking for that photo, but couldn't find it quickly - thanks nicanary
C.C. Friese was not a coachbuilder, he's got nothing to do with this car. He was an Austrian, who worked at MÁG for a brief period of time, but he was definitely not a coachbuilder. And I like the Magomobil Sport designation better
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 20, 2025, 03:20:44 PM
C.C. Friese was not a coachbuilder, he's got nothing to do with this car. He was an Austrian, who worked at MÁG for a brief period of time, but he was definitely not a coachbuilder. And I like the Magomobil Sport designation better
Thanks, I've change the thread title accordingly.
Also, please see my edited post above. ;)
Hehe, nicely found.
The date should be 1927, not 1929. Otherwise great :)
And a little story at the end: after some twists and turns the Hungarian Institute for Transport Sciences is going to publish an essay from me in Hungarian later this year, which will ruffle some feathers and raise eyebrows. Basically I put together an essay showing what sources were used in the last 60 years by other writers and researchers of Hungarian motoring and how they were wrong in many, many, many cases.
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 20, 2025, 04:25:25 PM
The date should be 1927, not 1929. Otherwise great :)
:thumbsup:
Quote from: pnegyesi on February 20, 2025, 04:25:25 PMAnd a little story at the end: after some twists and turns the Hungarian Institute for Transport Sciences is going to publish an essay from me in Hungarian later this year, which will ruffle some feathers and raise eyebrows. Basically I put together an essay showing what sources were used in the last 60 years by other writers and researchers of Hungarian motoring and how they were wrong in many, many, many cases.
:hail: