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Started by Paul Jaray, March 08, 2011, 08:27:36 AM

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Paul Jaray

You are incredible!
I had these pics for years and in 1 days you find half of them!

Carnut

Quote from: Limo on March 08, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
About #12:
Your right answer is maybe Vokaro.
In fact it is still an unkwown swedish kitcar, built in 1967.
The seller said that he would call it a Vokaro when he did not succeed to find the name of the real builder because he needed a name to get german papers and licenseplates for the car...


Is it related to this car at all?:

www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=13678.0

Interests in life:  Cars, cars, cars - oh and ..er..cars

Wendax

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 08, 2011, 08:27:36 AM
11- CLUES: Panhard rebodied around 1960 by the uncle of a Bernard...who was the builder ?

The car was built by Monsieur Mathevet, the village is Ecrosnes and the base car was a 1950 Panhard X. Monsieur Mathevet was artist and teacher at the École des beaux-arts in Paris.

Wendax

#28
#9 is the 1947 Brush Electrical wagonette.

Thanks for the picture, Hugo  :D

Arunas


Quiller

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 08, 2011, 08:53:43 AM
Quote from: Quiller on March 08, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
I've got a feeling that (7) is a Barry Stimson creation (possibly on Honda Acty)
My source reports that is an Honda modified by a British Design consultant...and I think I can read the name, now!
Is this the Honda Open 4, then?

Yes, I strongly suspect this is the Open 4 as mentioned on Stimson's website
I have seen other photos but they were back in the early 1980s...

Quiller

I don't know what 14 is, but here's a rear view:

Paul Jaray

Sorry for being late.

Quote from: Limo on March 08, 2011, 06:22:52 PM
About #12:
Your right answer is maybe Vokaro.
In fact it is still an unkwown swedish kitcar, built in 1967.
The seller said that he would call it a Vokaro when he did not succeed to find the name of the real builder because he needed a name to get german papers and licenseplates for the car...
Ok, I'll unlock it and see if there will be some more info, otherwise it's your point.
Quote from: woodinsight on March 09, 2011, 02:41:36 AM
#8 - Pak-Age-Kar?
#9 - Morrison Electricar?
#8 is correct (thank you Wendax!)
Quote from: Wendax on March 09, 2011, 07:26:10 AM
The car was built by Monsieur Mathevet, the village is Ecrosnes and the base car was a 1950 Panhard X. Monsieur Mathevet was artist and teacher at the École des beaux-arts in Paris.
That's impressive. Can you tell me the source? (via PM, if you prefer)
Quote from: Wendax on March 09, 2011, 08:24:32 AM
#9 is the 1947 Brush Electrical wagonette.
Perfect!
Quote from: Arunas on March 10, 2011, 07:49:42 AM
Is #6 still unsolved and locked?
Still unsolved and locked.
Limo, let me know if you are stuck and I can unlock it. (I will, eventually)

Thank you Quiller, I was going to post it later.

Limo

Okay, unlock me, because i can't find the small A5 publication with the Belgian DIY car anymore and i don't know the builder of the swedish volkswagen kitcar either... sorry.


Paul Jaray

#35
more:

Wendax

Quote from: Wendax on March 08, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 08, 2011, 12:12:33 PM
Quote from: Wendax on March 08, 2011, 11:35:58 AM
#4 is the Wesnigk Muster D Motordreirad. It was built by engineer Erwin Wesnigk from Berlin from 1922 to 1926. Seven cars were built. The body panels were attached to a tubular aluminum frame. The engine was a single-cylinder 6 hp BMW engine, later ones had a single-cylinder 10 hp Kühne engine. The car weighed 195 kg and reached 70 km/h. I couldn't find the "Hexe" (witch) name right now. I know it is mentioned in other books. I will have a look next week-end.
It's not an Hexe, then? Same source?

Forget the Hexe right now. The Wesnigk data come from the Metternich book as well. If I find a further name, I'll tell you. For the moment I think that my memory played a trick on me with "Hexe".

Hexe was definitely wrong, but the Wesnigk had a (nick)name. It was called Maikäfer (cockchafer).

Oguerrerob

5. I've found the same picture tagged as Chain Drive Packard

Paul Jaray

I doubt it's a Packard but...locked for you for further details (or a proof for your ID)

Oguerrerob

That's what I have. If you Google Chain Drive Packard for Twin6. The first picture you'll get is this one. 

Paul Jaray

Quote from: Oguerrerob on March 21, 2011, 03:34:44 PM
That's what I have. If you Google Chain Drive Packard for Twin6. The first picture you'll get is this one. 
I'm afraid it's not enough...
@Wendax, the Mercedes Benz by Erdman and Rossi should be from 1933, because my pic cames from a magazine of that year.

Wendax

Quote from: Paul Jaray on March 22, 2011, 07:03:28 AM
@Wendax, the Mercedes Benz by Erdman and Rossi should be from 1933, because my pic cames from a magazine of that year.
Yes, must be 1933.


Allemano

#12: I guess it's written in the marked area. Unfortunatly the pic is too small, again.

Wendax

Not really sure, but it just looks like "SPECIAL" to me.

Allemano

#45
After a few tries in Photoshop I'm proud to say that there is definetly "SPECIAL" written.  >:(

At least I have a year: 1967. And that it is VW Type 1 based... What I have found so far suggests that it is German not Swedish.

Wendax

The yellow rear side reflectors say "Jäg ar inte tysk!" (Swedish for "I'm not German"). And the car was photographed in Northern Germany, not a long way for an import.

Allemano


Tom_I

Here's another picture with what looks to be #5 in it, but there's very little information.

The caption reads "Big car racing King Ralph DePalma poses behind the wheel of a miniature Packard Twin Six racer. This is in the Los Angeles area in 1924."

I don't know what the car actually is, but the badge on the radiator, visible in the puzzle picture, does indeed say "Twin Six". The bonnet is painted with "Warner Bros Special", again as in the puzzle pic. The car is obviously registered for road use, but that's all the information there is.

Wendax

Bad news regarding #12: the current owner himself is still looking for a correct identification in order to get some German licence plates. Some more pictures: