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Title: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward 1500 RS - 1958
Post by: Carnut on February 06, 2017, 09:08:00 AM: What's this, for 1 point?:

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Title: Re: NEH 5102
Post by: Carnut on February 23, 2017, 05:34:41 AM: Experts?
Title: Re: NEH 5102
Post by: el_monty on February 23, 2017, 06:42:33 AM: I came across a lot of photos of this guy looking for grobmotorix's mystery Hansa. This is a 1952 Borgward Hansa 1500 RS racing car
Title: Re: NEH 5102
Post by: Carnut on February 23, 2017, 07:05:25 AM: Quote from: el_monty on February 23, 2017, 06:42:33 AM
I came across a lot of photos of this guy looking for grobmotorix's mystery Hansa. This is a 1952 Borgward Hansa 1500 RS racing car

Yes; Typ?
Locked for you to complete the answer.
Title: Re: NEH 5102
Post by: el_monty on February 23, 2017, 07:09:33 AM: Typ Inka
Title: Re: NEH 5102
Post by: Carnut on February 23, 2017, 07:22:28 AM: Quote from: el_monty on February 23, 2017, 07:09:33 AM
Typ Inka

Indeed. Well done.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward Type Inka 1500
Post by: Wendax on February 23, 2017, 08:25:04 AM: No, this is the one and only Inka: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-wendax-133-borgward-hansa-1500-inka/

I'll PM you tonight what's the correct name of the puzzle car.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward Type Inka 1500
Post by: Carnut on February 23, 2017, 09:43:51 AM: Quote from: Wendax on February 23, 2017, 08:25:04 AM
No, this is the one and only Inka: http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2011-39/solved-wendax-133-borgward-hansa-1500-inka/

I'll PM you tonight what's the correct name of the puzzle car.

Thanks.
Seems it's the Hansa 1500 RS, exactly as el_monty said...
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward Hansa 1500 RS - 1952
Post by: Wendax on February 23, 2017, 12:21:41 PM: Borgward dropped the Hansa name for its racing cars in 1955, after the Isabella succeeded the Hansa 1500 (and was just called Isabella, after a short time when it was the Hansa 1500 Isabella). The puzzle car is a third-generation Borgward 1500 RS in its 1958 configuration with the rucksack on its back. Three cars were built in 1956 and three in 1958.

One of those cars in its initial 1956 guise can be seen here: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-neh-2915-borgward-1500-rs-1958/msg288469/#msg288469
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward 1500 RS - 1956
Post by: D-type on February 24, 2017, 09:46:51 AM: Ah! A car I've actually heard of. The first this year!
Title: SOLVED: si_254 - Borgward - 1500 RS - 1957/58
Post by: sichel on May 10, 2022, 04:17:26 PM: To which car does this beautiful engine belong?
One point for the answer?
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: Johno on May 11, 2022, 01:59:05 PM: The engine is by Borgward, the abbreviation 4 M 1.5 III( RSE refers to a racecar engine) it was first produced in 1956 designed by Karl Ludwig Brandt. The car was a Borgward two seater raced by RS (Rennsport) these had competed in Mexico's Carrera Panamericana as well as on European tracks.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 13, 2022, 03:14:27 PM: Yes, you are right. It is a Borgward RS 1500, dohc, twin ignition and fuel injection, designed by K.-L. Brandt. But there were several versions. please define the year of construction, that should be possible with the help of the foto.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 23, 2022, 04:27:59 PM: Up to Experts.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: BattlePorQ on May 23, 2022, 05:40:42 PM: Marcus Burke?
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 23, 2022, 05:44:52 PM: ???
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: BattlePorQ on May 23, 2022, 05:57:31 PM: 1958/2009 Borgward 1500 Rennsport recreation by Marcus Burke?
Chassis/engine 60015/30005.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 24, 2022, 07:14:58 AM: It is definitely not the 1500 RS built from new old-stock parts by Marcus Burke in 2009.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: BattlePorQ on May 24, 2022, 08:08:43 AM: One of original 1500 RS survivors?
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 24, 2022, 09:10:49 AM: Yes.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: hermanoto on May 25, 2022, 05:36:47 AM: Borgward 1500RS factory designation type 4M1,5 IIIRS from 1952/53

Such a car was driven by Eberhard Mahle, Avus-Rennen 1958, racing number 32. The only surviving car of this type was rebuilt/restored by Fritz Jüttner and raced by his son. The pictured car must be the Jüttner car (braided hose).
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 25, 2022, 04:45:00 PM: Please be patient till Monday. I am on tour with "my" IFA H6B. No laptop on board.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on May 30, 2022, 06:11:05 PM: Yes, that must be one of the two cars with a Kamm-rear deck. I took the photos in the 80s at the Nürburgring. The type designation of the engine is correct, but the year of construction is wrong. Locked for you to clear this point.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: hermanoto on May 31, 2022, 02:33:44 AM: Engine development started around 1952 and continued in later Years. The tubular frame was introduced in 1957. The removable Kamm-tail / "Avus-Hump"/ "Rücksack" belongs to the 1957/58 versions. In 1958 only one car was built, the Electron. This car had a 'flipfront'. The Jüttner car has a normal hood/bonnet and therefore it is from 1957.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on June 02, 2022, 02:17:53 PM: Your description of the vehicle is correct. But the development of the dohc-engine began later than you stated. In 1952, the company was still working on the further development of the Isabella based ohv engine, please specify.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: hermanoto on June 02, 2022, 03:13:29 PM: The 4M 1.5 II got direct injection onto the 'old' engine. In 1956 a new engine with direct injection was developped for the 4M 1.5 III.
Title: Re: si_254
Post by: sichel on June 02, 2022, 04:28:41 PM: Yes, now the case is settled. Here is your next point :thumbsup:
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_254 - Borgward - 1500 RS - 1957/58
Post by: Wendax on June 02, 2022, 04:52:17 PM: I think it is the same car as this one: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2017-47/neh-5102
Title: Re: SOLVED: si_254 - Borgward - 1500 RS - 1957/58
Post by: Carnut on June 03, 2022, 06:22:25 AM: I think so too, so I'll merge them.
Title: Re: Solved - NEH 5102: Borgward 1500 RS - 1958
Post by: sichel on June 03, 2022, 11:12:22 AM: In my photo, the side vents behind the exaust are not easy to see. So I didn't realise that it was obviously the same vehicle. But instead we now have an illustration of this magnificent engine and know a little more about its development history. I am inserting a table for this purpose, their optical quality corresponds to the original.