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Title: Solved: PN #966 -- Eigenbau Sportwagen based on a Röhr Junior by Kurt Delfosse, 1937
Post by: pnegyesi on November 20, 2016, 07:38:10 AM
I have some info on this. I know its mechanical donor. I know the name of the guy who raced it (probably he was the builder too but I can't be sure of that). And I know a year. So you can get 1 point if you ID donor and owner/racer and you can get a 2nd point if you tell me more about its back story - with proof of course
Title: Re: PN #966
Post by: pnegyesi on November 27, 2016, 10:04:15 AM
Experts?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 04, 2016, 09:50:22 AM
Professionals?
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Post by: nicanary on December 04, 2016, 11:00:37 AM
French?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 04, 2016, 12:06:56 PM
no
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Post by: nicanary on December 04, 2016, 04:41:34 PM
German?
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Post by: Wendax on December 04, 2016, 04:46:11 PM
DKW-based?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 04, 2016, 11:16:27 PM
German, not based on a DKW
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Post by: Wendax on December 05, 2016, 02:19:10 AM
Adler-based?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 05, 2016, 07:00:51 AM
no
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Post by: Wendax on December 05, 2016, 03:51:18 PM
Hanomag-based?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 05, 2016, 04:01:58 PM
no
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Post by: Wendax on December 07, 2016, 04:01:34 AM
Opel-based?
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Post by: oko94 on December 07, 2016, 04:10:23 AM
Ford-based ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 07, 2016, 12:37:37 PM
neither, nor
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Post by: nicanary on December 07, 2016, 12:40:50 PM
Dixi?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 07, 2016, 12:56:35 PM
no
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Post by: oko94 on December 07, 2016, 12:58:51 PM
BMW-based ?
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Post by: nicanary on December 07, 2016, 02:14:28 PM
Hansa?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 07, 2016, 04:12:16 PM
neither, nor
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Post by: Wendax on December 07, 2016, 04:20:27 PM
NSU-Fiat?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 12:18:11 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on December 08, 2016, 02:59:17 AM
Based on a German car ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 03:35:54 AM
yes, a better known brand
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Post by: oko94 on December 08, 2016, 04:08:30 AM
Mercedes-based ?
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Post by: Wendax on December 08, 2016, 04:28:53 AM
If so, based on rear-engined 130H or 170H?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 05:24:24 AM
not Merc based
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Post by: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 05:53:20 AM
It could well be rear-engined, but I thought it looked pre-WW2. But I'm having to ask - is it a VW?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 06:44:46 AM
it is pre-WW2 and earlier than the KdF wagen so no, not VW-based
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Post by: Wendax on December 08, 2016, 06:53:11 AM
Wanderer?
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Post by: oko94 on December 08, 2016, 07:05:11 AM
Audi-based ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 07:36:09 AM
neither, nor
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Post by: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 07:44:37 AM
Is this a 1920s car which was rebodied in the 1930s?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 10:43:26 AM
yes
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Post by: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 10:43:26 AM
yes

Ahhhh.... it starts to make sense! We've named every maker from the 1930s!

Aga?
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Post by: oko94 on December 08, 2016, 12:40:25 PM
Horch-based ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 01:41:11 PM
Quote from: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 11:28:40 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 10:43:26 AM
yes

Ahhhh.... it starts to make sense! We've named every maker from the 1930s!

Aga?

Not Aga or Horch and no, you did not name every known maker from the 1930s.
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Post by: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 01:50:59 PM
Brennabor?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 02:11:26 PM
no
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Post by: nicanary on December 08, 2016, 03:10:47 PM
NAG-Voran?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 08, 2016, 04:00:56 PM
no
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Post by: Wendax on December 09, 2016, 02:45:56 AM
Stoewer?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 09, 2016, 06:51:57 AM
no
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2016, 09:34:15 AM
Röhr?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 11, 2016, 09:55:46 AM
yes, locked for you
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2016, 10:19:21 AM
Robert Scheid?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 11, 2016, 10:22:40 AM
no
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2016, 10:50:49 AM
Fritz Bähnsch?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 11, 2016, 10:59:26 AM
no and you won't find his name among Röhr eigenbaus. You need a different approach to this :)
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Post by: Wendax on December 11, 2016, 11:00:13 AM
 :sigh:
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 11, 2016, 11:10:15 AM
You need to a find race who became more known after the 2nd WW and who appeared on AP before. His family has been mentioned in the Röhr history.
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Post by: oko94 on December 22, 2016, 02:38:25 AM
Still locked ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 22, 2016, 07:01:21 AM
no
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Post by: oko94 on December 22, 2016, 07:07:45 AM
Was the owner/racer German ?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 22, 2016, 01:01:36 PM
yes
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Post by: oko94 on December 23, 2016, 08:49:20 AM
Has this racer raced with Eigenbaus after WWII too ?
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Post by: oko94 on January 09, 2017, 03:28:03 PM
*bump*
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 09, 2017, 04:02:22 PM
oops, sorry. Yes, it seems he did
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Post by: Wendax on January 09, 2017, 04:04:04 PM
Petermax Müller?
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Post by: pnegyesi on January 09, 2017, 04:25:24 PM
no
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Post by: oko94 on January 11, 2017, 11:14:00 AM
Has this racer raced with a BMW-based Eigenbau ?
Title: Re: PN #966
Post by: pnegyesi on January 11, 2017, 11:27:46 AM
sometimes - in the pre-war era. In fact he brought the puzzle car to a race, but instead he raced a BMW special there :)! In the post-war era he raced with other sports cars
Title: Re: PN #966
Post by: grobmotorix on February 03, 2017, 01:05:48 PM
Thank you Robbie / ropat53 for the hint!

This looks like what I wanted to post as a new puzzle.

According to a photo I made just the last weekend in the nice and interesting Museum of Ober-Ramstadt,
this is a Röhr Junior race car built by (Kurt?) Delfosse.
Title: Re: PN #966
Post by: pnegyesi on February 03, 2017, 02:12:46 PM
That's it! What a nice photo! You see if you know where to look even the most difficult puzzle can be easy :)!
Title: Re: Solved: PN #966 -- Eigenbau Sportwagen based on a Röhr Junior by Kurt Delfosse, 1937
Post by: grobmotorix on February 03, 2017, 02:39:21 PM
The text underneith the photo in the museum told that this car has been built by using only spare parts:
Title: Re: Solved: PN #966 -- Eigenbau Sportwagen based on a Röhr Junior by Kurt Delfosse, 1937
Post by: Wendax on October 26, 2019, 12:47:53 PM
The Gesellschaft für die Verwertung von Industrieanlagen bought the Röhr factory in November, 1935, following the Röhr bancruptcy. But the sale was annulled in May, 1936, by a Darmstadt court.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #966 -- Eigenbau Sportwagen based on a Röhr Junior by Kurt Delfosse, 1937
Post by: grobmotorix on October 26, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
Ah, ok, thank you.
Title: Re: Solved: PN #966 -- Eigenbau Sportwagen based on a Röhr Junior by Kurt Delfosse, 1937
Post by: Wendax on June 08, 2025, 07:16:06 AM
Another picture: