Gosh, that looks comfortable. Name the maker and model name for a point please.
On the move...
Up to the sub-400 point Pros... I will add a photo of the complete car once this puzzle is solved.
from Usa?
from Europe?
I think I've found the car but not in this configuration :-\
Quote from: thorax on February 25, 2016, 09:00:18 AM
I think I've found the car but not in this configuration :-\
Well, it may be worth letting me know what you think it might be...
looking the door panels and the seats is a Mercedes S 600
The puzzle is related to a Mercedes-Benz S-Klasse
by Trasco?
Carat Duchatelet?
Stoof International?
Eurocash AG?
Now open to all...
Made by a German coachbuilder ?
Is this coachbuilder still active ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 17, 2016, 05:37:34 AM
Is this coachbuilder still active ?
I am not 100% certain, but to the best of my (limited) knowledge the coachbuilder is no longer active.
Is this coachbuilder known for other cars than this one ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 17, 2016, 08:02:31 AM
Is this coachbuilder known for other cars than this one ?
I believe it also converted some other Mercedes-Benz models.
Were these conversions limos too or other body styles ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 17, 2016, 01:23:15 PM
Were these conversions limos too or other body styles ?
Both.
Styling Garage / SGS / Design + Technik ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 17, 2016, 05:23:02 PM
Styling Garage / SGS / Design + Technik ?
Sorry, but it's not them.
Was this company also active during the eighties ?
Quote from: oko94 on March 21, 2016, 02:04:01 PM
Was this company also active during the eighties ?
I'm not 100% certain to be honest. This car is later than the 1980s, and there seems to be very little information about when the Company began trading.
Luxuriously heading into BH very soon...
and in it goes...
Can this coachbuilder be found online ?
Quote from: oko94 on September 02, 2016, 02:50:36 AM
Can this coachbuilder be found online ?
Yes, but not for this car.
Is this other car a Mercedes limo too ?
Quote from: oko94 on September 09, 2016, 04:40:21 PM
Is this other car a Mercedes limo too ?
Not quite, but it is Mercedes related.
Mercedes hearse ?
Mercedes convertible ?
Is the other car a Mercedes whose body has been modified or is it a car with a fully bespoke body ?
Quote from: oko94 on September 14, 2016, 07:01:48 AM
Is the other car a Mercedes whose body has been modified or is it a car with a fully bespoke body ?
All Mercedes-Benz based.
Is the other car a Mercedes estate ?
Is the other car a Mercedes coupé ?
Is the other car a Mercedes sedan ?
Is the other car a Mercedes landaulet ?
Is the other car a Mercedes van ?
Quote from: oko94 on September 22, 2016, 09:10:04 AM
Is the other car a Mercedes van ?
Yes, sort of, and getting closer.
Is it a van of Viano / V Class size or something bigger, like a Sprinter ?
Quote from: oko94 on September 23, 2016, 02:43:38 AM
Is it a van of Viano / V Class size or something bigger, like a Sprinter ?
Yes, based around one of the Mercedes van-derived vehicles.
Klassen?
Is the other vehicle based on a Mercedes Vaneo ?
*bump*
Not a Klassen, and I can't see any sign of any Vaneo conversions.
Is the other vehicle based on a Mercedes MB100 ?
Quote from: oko94 on October 18, 2016, 09:24:49 AM
Is the other vehicle based on a Mercedes MB100 ?
No, not to my knowledge.
Is the other vehicle based on a Mercedes van that was built between 1990 and 2000 ?
Quote from: oko94 on October 18, 2016, 09:44:31 AM
Is the other vehicle based on a Mercedes van that was built between 1990 and 2000 ?
No, later than 2000.
Vito ?
*bump*
Oophs, missed that one! I'm not 100% certain if this company converted Vitos, but it is highly likely. The puzzle vehicle is not Vito-based though.
I'm getting a bit confused ...
You said earlier that the company can be found online for another car than the puzzle. That car has been confirmed as being based on a Mercedes van built after 2000.
You are not sure if it's based on a Vito ? Does that mean that it could be based on a Viano / V Class, or does it mean that this van is so much altered that the base can't be recognized ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 03, 2016, 07:00:45 AM
I'm getting a bit confused ...
You said earlier that the company can be found online for another car than the puzzle. That car has been confirmed as being based on a Mercedes van built after 2000.
You are not sure if it's based on a Vito ? Does that mean that it could be based on a Viano / V Class, or does it mean that this van is so much altered that the base can't be recognized ?
Your last note was the very first time that the Viano/V-Class has been mentioned, which I believe this Company's other Mercedes conversion was based on, but as established some time ago, this puzzle is based on an S-Class.
Alright, thanks for the clarification.
(On a side note, I already mentioned Viano / V Class in my #54 reply on September 23rd).
Quote from: oko94 on November 03, 2016, 08:47:56 AM
(On a side note, I already mentioned Viano / V Class in my #54 reply on September 23rd).
Oh sorry, I must have missed that one too! I am probably not alone in very occassionally regretting to post a particular puzzle, but sadly this is one of them! ???
Techintacto ?
Does this coachbuilder have its own website ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 03, 2016, 12:42:05 PM
Does this coachbuilder have its own website ?
When I originally posted this puzzle I looked but couldn't find a dedicated website. I have just looked again now, and it seems it does now have one, so... :)
Good news !
Is the company located in Bavaria ?
KTW?
Not KTW, but to the best of my (very limited) knowledge, this Company is based in Bavaria, although I can not be 100% certain as it is not clear from their website, nor my origianl paper source.
Apologies, my German geography needs to improve! This Company is NOT based in Bavaria.
Is the company located in Baden-Württemberg ?
Is the company located in Stuttgart region (Regierungsbezirk Stuttgart) ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 08, 2016, 09:21:20 AM
Is the company located in Stuttgart region (Regierungsbezirk Stuttgart) ?
Sorry Oka, but I haven't been able to narrow down this Company's location beyound being based somewhere in the Baden-Wurttemburg region.
They just can't put their own address on their own website ? :o
Quote from: oko94 on November 08, 2016, 01:24:06 PM
They just can't put their own address on their own website ? :o
It seems not (although I have searched for it extensively), as they only use an 'international' address on their website, based in another country (i.e. not Germany!).
Is this other address in Europe ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 08, 2016, 03:37:13 PM
Is this other address in Europe ?
Yes, and also in other Continents...
Russian address ?
Turkish address ?
Is it a French address ? France has territories on several continents (though I don't know why a German company would use an address in French Polynesia or in French Guiana !).
Yes, it's a French address, and as I mentioned earlier (as a clue), this German company now seems to have become much more international due to mergers, etc...
So is this address located in one of the French overseas departments (French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Mayotte, Réunion) ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 10, 2016, 10:08:42 AM
So is this address located in one of the French overseas departments (French Guiana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, Mayotte, Réunion) ?
No, located in France itself.
Is this address in Paris ?
Is this address within 100 km of the French-German border ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 10, 2016, 10:46:01 AM
Is this address within 100 km of the French-German border ?
As I've mentioned on previous occasions, geography isn't my strong point, but I believe that this Companies French base is located more than 100 km from the German border.
Is this address located East of Paris ?
Is the address located North of Dijon ?
Is the address located North of Reims ?
Is the address located North of Arras ?
Is the address located in Lille ?
Is the address located South of Brûle Maison street ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 17, 2016, 12:53:58 PM
Is the address located South of Brûle Maison street ?
Sorry, but I don't have this Company's full address in Lille, just Lille!
Is there any precise address on their website that can help identify them ?
God, I really am regretting ever posting this puzzle, as it seems to be a chain of utter confusion for what should be a simple make and model designation, which is all I need to solve the puzzle! I've looked again on-line for the French address, and any mention of Lille seems to have now disappeared and been replaced by another location in France! Arghhh!! Sorry for any confusion. If it helps, the main correspondence address for this Company is not located in France (nor Germany).
Is this main correspondence address a complete address or just a city name ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 18, 2016, 03:19:34 AM
Is this main correspondence address a complete address or just a city name ?
Yes, there now seems to be a full contact address, for a place I have heard of in France, but have never visited.
OK, here we go again. Is the city North of Bourges ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 18, 2016, 12:28:16 PM
OK, here we go again. Is the city North of Bourges ?
Yes, and also north of Paris...
North-East of Paris ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 18, 2016, 12:37:06 PM
North-East of Paris ?
No, more to the west of Paris ;)
East of Rouen ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 18, 2016, 12:51:59 PM
East of Rouen ?
I haven't got the time currently to double-check it 100%, but I would say that no, it is east of Rouen.
Your answer is slightly confusing. Should I read "No it is West of Rouen" or "Yes it is East of Rouen" ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 18, 2016, 01:04:48 PM
Your answer is slightly confusing. Should I read "No it is West of Rouen" or "Yes it is East of Rouen" ?
Sorry, distracted in a busy airport. To clarify, this Company's location is to the West of Rouen.
Le Havre or further west?
Quote from: Wendax on November 18, 2016, 01:24:09 PM
Le Havre or further west?
Not Le Havre, and further to the West (and when looking at a map of France, slightly to the south of Paris!).
Avranches? Or are we heading to the beautiful Bretagne?
Quote from: Wendax on November 18, 2016, 02:24:51 PM
Avranches? Or are we heading to the beautiful Bretagne?
Not Avranches, so yes, we are lucky enough to be heading into Bretagne!
Rennes?
Saint-Malo ?
Saint-Brieuc?
No x 2.
West of Saint-Brieuc ?
Dol-de-Bretagne?
South of Dinan ?
Vannes?
North of Caulnes ?
In the département Morbihan?
Combourg?
Quote from: Wendax on November 21, 2016, 02:23:32 AM
Combourg?
No. Now travelling overseas for most of today so slow or no answers for a while. Sorry!
Is it in Côtes d'Armor département ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 21, 2016, 04:45:19 PM
Is it in Côtes d'Armor département ?
Yes, I believe it is.
West of Plestan ?
East of Trébédan ?
Quote from: oko94 on November 23, 2016, 10:27:15 AM
East of Trébédan ?
Sorry for the long delay in replying, but I have been travelling extensively over the last couple of weeks. The Company is based to the west of Trébédan,
Is the company based in Broons ?
Garage de la Tour in Yvignac-la-Tour ?
Garage Godard in La Landec ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 04:14:44 AM
Garage Godard in La Landec ?
No, and as a clue, this Company is far larger than Garage Godard.
Is the company located North of Mégrit ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 04:51:23 AM
Is the company located North of Mégrit ?
Yes, it seems so.
Is the company located West of Dolo ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 06:13:45 AM
Is the company located West of Dolo ?
You are really helping me to improve my geography of Brittany here Oko! Yes, they are based to the West of Dolo.
Is the company located in Tramain ?
Is the company located south of Plestan ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 08:19:34 AM
Is the company located south of Plestan ?
No, they are north of Plestan, but you are getting much closer now..!
Is the company located in Saint-Rieul ?
Is the company located West of Plédéliac ?
Apart from Saint-Rieul, I can't see any other city/village that is East of Plestan (reply #150), North of Plestan (reply #166), South of Dinan (reply #138) and West of Plédéliac (reply #170). Are you sure that you gave the right answer for each geographic question ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 10:43:26 AM
Apart from Saint-Rieul, I can't see any other city/village that is East of Plestan (reply #150), North of Plestan (reply #166), South of Dinan (reply #138) and West of Plédéliac (reply #170). Are you sure that you gave the right answer for each geographic question ?
It's a not a city; it's a town, like most of the other locations you have mentioned. This town is the only European address I can now find for this Company, but it may well be a post box address, rather than a full-blown production facility, because as I have mentioned on a number of occasions before, the converted Mercedes in this Puzzle was modified in Germany, where the Company no longer seems to have a base from what I can tell.
I understand what you mean but if the company is located in, say, Gardisseul, the address should mention Plestan too as Gardisseul is not even a town, it's a "lieu-dit" attached to Plestan.
So, is it located in Gardisseul ?
The location where this Company is based (or a postal address) seems to be a town in its own right, and I can see it clearly on a map of this region, but it is not Gardisseul.
Le Bourchonnet ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 12:05:17 PM
Le Bourchonnet ?
No, you will get there eventually, but remember once you do, I will still need the name of both the Company and model...
Saint Sulien ?
Le Créhu ?
Trémaudan ?
Les Hauts Fossés ?
La Gare ?
Quote from: oko94 on December 02, 2016, 10:59:04 PM
La Gare ?
No, not there, and just a reminder that this Company exists in the Cotes d'Armor region of Brittany. I have looked on-line again, and it seems that the firm does have an actual vehicle conversion facility based in the 'mystery' town.
Is it related to Labbé in Lamballe ? It doesn't fit with the geographic hints but I can't find any company in the zone described in reply #171 which mostly consists in fields, farms and houses.
Yes, it is related to Labbe in Lamballe, but without a map of the region in front of me, I believe the geographical hints were correct, although as I mentioned at an early stage, geography is not my strong point.
So, now locked to you finally for the actual answer to my original puzzle question as to which Company converted this Mercedes-Benz (not Labbe), and what was it called? I can not wait for this one to be resolved... ???
You can unlock it, I can't find anything.
OK, unlocked and open to all...