Enigma Variations (Postwar edition), opus 2

Wendax · March 07, 2014, 03:29:57 PM

Over the past months I gathered some more pictures of cars unknown to me. You can earn yourself a point for each identification with proof. Additional information is welcome, as always. Have fun!

Wendax · March 07, 2014, 03:31:12 PM

The identifications:
5: Flauzias by Michèle Collinot (Oguerrerob)
12: Vogel Kabinenroller (Djetset)

SACO · March 08, 2014, 01:32:40 AM

pguillem · April 02, 2014, 02:13:42 PM

Enigma II 10 : is it a Czech Avia 350 prototype ?

Wendax · April 02, 2014, 03:57:57 PM

I don't know, but the Avia 350 has a sliding roof-door-unit. The puzzle car seems to have just sliding doors.

barrett · July 09, 2014, 06:50:34 PM

I've no proof, but could #8 be a Krejbich? It is different from the only examples I have seen in photographs but the way he windscreen is split, the dashboard and the hump over the real wheel all match. I know there were several built 'of differing design', and I would guess this was one of those

Wendax · July 10, 2014, 01:54:01 AM

I thought about that, too. But as you say, there are quite some differences to the Krejbich cars of which there are pictures available. And as I recall, the puzzle car didn't have a Czechoslovakian license plate.

grobmotorix · July 12, 2014, 05:31:05 AM

Enigma II 3 looks like a BMW with a Wendler body.

Wendax · July 20, 2014, 05:32:50 AM

It surely is based on a prewar BMW chassis. The small badge in front of the door doesn't look like a Wendler teardrop anyhow.

Wendax · August 30, 2014, 05:27:07 PM

Picture names restored and two more enigmas (#11 und #12) added!

Oguerrerob · February 11, 2015, 06:04:14 AM

5 Michelle Collinot Prototype France. Called Flauzia (or something like that)

Wendax · February 11, 2015, 07:07:32 AM

Well found! I think it is Michèle Collinot and Flauzias.

The car is from 1961 and has an 125 cc Aubier Dune engine.
One well earned point for you.

Oguerrerob · April 03, 2015, 04:37:18 PM

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=30451.0

Paul Jaray · July 27, 2015, 04:25:24 PM

#2 is was for sale as a Zundapp prototype, ks601 engine.

Wendax · August 02, 2015, 06:36:32 PM

That's right, but I am looking for a name or the builder (either of which I don't know).
Some more pictues:

Wendax · September 13, 2016, 06:35:25 AM

Open for all now

grobmotorix · October 08, 2016, 04:39:29 AM

Could "Postwar Enigma II 8" be Dick Shattock´s 1955 Atalanta RGS threewheeler conversion with a Vincent motorcycle engine?

Wendax · October 08, 2016, 07:17:46 AM

I don't know, but I'd rather think that it is a German or Austrian car, as there is an Opl Blitz in the background of the whole picture.

Mogul · October 12, 2016, 05:34:21 AM

12: Messerschmitt KR175 kabinenroller, with side air intake scoop & different rear lights.

Wendax · October 12, 2016, 05:39:46 AM

Quote from: Mogul on October 12, 2016, 05:34:21 AM
12: Messerschmitt KR175 kabinenroller, with side air intake scoop & different rear lights.

#12 was certainly inspired by the Messerschmitt, but comparing those two cars shows that there is no common part:

Wendax · January 16, 2017, 02:26:16 AM

To the Black Hole

Djetset · January 16, 2017, 07:22:11 PM

Was #12 made in the former DDR?

Wendax · January 17, 2017, 02:14:58 AM

Yes, and that's about all I know about it.

Djetset · January 30, 2020, 09:40:26 AM

With my 1,000th Puzzle pending I had planned to post a tough and interesting one for a while now.

I have been sitting on the car below - taken from a 1984 German Messerschmitt Club magazine that I found at an autojumble in Belgium - for about four years now, planning to perhaps use it for a special occasion sometime, such as a significant Puzzle. However I've been slightly reluctant to post it as my understanding of German is quite basic, and I was never certain if the information below actually gave the name of the creator of this faux Messerschmitt; possibly Gerhard Six or Herr Zimmermann (possibly the gentleman in the photos?).

Anyway, just casually reviewing some old BH Puzzles now for the first time in a while, I suddenly realised that Puzzle car #12 here is the same East German-built Messerschmitt 'homage' that I had been sitting on for some time. The DDR-era eigenbau seems to have been powered by a 250cc Jawa motorcycle engine.

Sorry I may not have found the name of the car's builder, but hopefully the images and information below will now help to solve this one

. Oh, and does anyone recognise the source of those tail lights please?

Wendax · January 30, 2020, 01:11:25 PM

Great!

The text gives the name of one of the three creators: it is a Herr Vogel, most probably the man on your photos. The idea to build this car arose after a visit in Western Germany in 1957 (so before the East German borders were closed). A brochure and an aluminium roof frame were all the three builders brought back from their visit. The text is not clear whether only one or three cars were built.

Two well-earned points for you.

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Enigma Variations (Postwar edition), opus 2