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Title: Solved - THOR # 42: Sidus 600 T moto-camioncino by S. A. Pozzi & Monti
Post by: thorax on November 08, 2012, 05:49:13 PM
I don't know anything about the black little truck, only the year and the location of the picture: one point for the right name (with proofs)
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on November 15, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
experts?
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Post by: mymokke on November 20, 2012, 01:05:48 AM
Looks like Fiat Topolino Long Wheelbase Delivery Van from the 30's, I could only find a similar long wheelbase version of a later vintage.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on November 20, 2012, 04:41:13 AM
i don't think that mine is a Topolino (it has three wheels): and the one you post is a 1500 6C
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Post by: FrontMan on November 22, 2012, 08:34:32 AM
Tempo.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on November 22, 2012, 10:20:25 AM
Tempo.
I think is quite different from a Tempo
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 03, 2012, 05:15:16 PM
pros?
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: Wendax on December 04, 2012, 02:12:45 AM
Picture taken in Milan 1937?
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Post by: pnegyesi on December 04, 2012, 03:32:53 AM
There was something like this called the FB or EB in Italy in the late 1930s. I'll try to find that issue of Manovella which featured the car - but I can only do that tomorrow
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 04, 2012, 03:43:02 AM
Picture taken in Milan 1937?

yes Milan! but now I cannot verify the year: I'll do this evening
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 04, 2012, 03:43:34 AM
There was something like this called the FB or EB in Italy in the late 1930s. I'll try to find that issue of Manovella which featured the car - but I can only do that tomorrow
ok I'll wait
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 04, 2012, 10:58:01 AM
Picture taken in Milan 1937?

I verify: is 1937, Milan.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: pnegyesi on December 05, 2012, 09:10:02 AM
From Manovella magazine: F.B. - Costruttore, nel 1936, di una carozzeria aerodinamica, simile a quella della Fiat 1500 realizzata su telaio a tre ruote di un motofurgone. La FB dei fratelli Boselli, importante fabrica di motofurgoni dell'anteguerra, diventera, a conflicto concluso, la fabbrica di motocicletta Mondial.

The FB company was located in Milan and was set up by the Boselli Brothers. In 1936 they created an aerodynamiccal styled, three wheeler light van, similar in style to the Fiat 1500. After the 2nd WW Boselli Borthers produced the Mondial motorcycle
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: targhediferro on December 05, 2012, 09:15:37 AM
I know my replay is a little bit late...two minutes perhaps, but I want to post you another picture coming from a site about Fiera Campionaria in Milan, 1937, showing the chassis of FB Titanus, the base of our car.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: SACO on December 05, 2012, 04:15:54 PM
Macchi ?
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 05, 2012, 05:12:34 PM
I think that Pnegyesi is on the right way even if the picture is a little different from mine: locked for you.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: pnegyesi on December 06, 2012, 12:18:56 PM
The answer could be found in a book, but I don't have it. You can unlock it
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on December 07, 2012, 08:11:00 AM
ok, unlocked.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: Hiawatha on January 20, 2013, 12:41:32 PM
The picture posted by pnegyesi was taken at the Milano fair in 1936, one year earlier than Thorax's one.
The vehicle in the 1936 picture doesn't appear to have any front lights (unless they are beneath the grill a la Peugeot 202) whereas the other vehicle has prominent front lights. First one could be a prototype, second one may be production model. Iam only guessing and I am not here to score a point, I just would like to know more..
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on January 21, 2013, 08:26:49 AM
so do I!  ;D
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: Hiawatha on February 23, 2013, 04:12:21 PM
I think I have found what it is.
Visiting a Vintage car show in Milano today I spotted an advertising leaflet for a three wheeler called Ercole- DKW (nothing to do with Moto Guzzi),made in Bologna by Cavani ,the importer of DKW motorcycles for Italy.It was available with different types of body, including the one pictured in the puzzle. As the price for the single sheet of paper was 150 euro, I declined to be robbed, but I am positive with the identification.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on February 24, 2013, 05:47:29 PM
I need a proof to give you a point because I don't know the vehicle!
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: Hiawatha on February 25, 2013, 01:33:41 AM
I fully understand, the point is not a problem, I just wanted to find out what it was. If someone else can find more info based on my findings he is more than welcome.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on February 25, 2013, 07:50:53 AM
so do I!
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Post by: thorax on October 11, 2013, 08:21:56 AM
black hole.
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Post by: gte4289 on October 13, 2019, 03:30:59 AM
I obtained eight separate photographs of this room, each taken from a different angle. Upon initial review of the photos, the puzzle vehicle seemed to be placed within the Moto Guzzi display area. Knowing it could not be a Moto Guzzi product, I analyzed the photos further, even mapping out the location of each of the manufacturer's display areas as well as each of the individual vehicles within those display areas. After all of that, I did what I should have done at the beginning--turned my attention away from the location of the vehicles in relation to the signs on the walls and, instead, focused on the (clearly visible) placards leaning against the vehicles' wheels.

As you can see, the puzzle vehicle is one of four Sidus 3-wheelers on display (one of them is hiding a bit), as indicated not only by the sign on the wall, but also by the placard leaning against its front wheel.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: gte4289 on October 13, 2019, 03:44:34 AM
As for the suggestion that it is an FB, not only does FB's motofurgone look very different, the FB display area was located further down along that same wall (about 4 manufacturers away).
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: pnegyesi on October 13, 2019, 04:38:25 AM
this is what I call commitment :)
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on October 14, 2019, 09:32:34 AM
the two pictures and the F.B. Motofurgone are very different: maybe not the same year
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: gte4289 on October 14, 2019, 09:35:18 AM
the two pictures and the F.B. Motofurgone are very different: maybe not the same year
As stated earlier in the thread, the F.B Motofurgone image (Reply #12) is from 1936. All other Fair images are from 1937 (though taken on different days).
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: gte4289 on October 19, 2019, 05:38:12 PM
? ??? ?

As you can see, the puzzle vehicle is one of four Sidus 3-wheelers on display (one of them is hiding a bit), as indicated not only by the sign on the wall, but also by the placard leaning against its front wheel.
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: gte4289 on October 27, 2019, 06:07:00 PM
I don't know anything about the black little truck, only the year and the location of the picture: one point for the right name (with proofs)
As you can see, the puzzle vehicle is one of four Sidus 3-wheelers on display (one of them is hiding a bit), as indicated not only by the sign on the wall, but also by the placard leaning against its front wheel.


I am not sure what more is required to solve this puzzle, so let's give it another try:

Tipo 'Sidus 600 T' moto-camioncino by S. A. Pozzi & Monti dei F. Pozzi Motofurgoni, Milano
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: thorax on October 29, 2019, 03:48:01 PM
from the photos I think you have arrived at the solution and I have no proof to prove that you are wrong. In fact, even I didn't know the solution - as I said at the beginning.
two points for you
Title: Re: THOR # 42
Post by: gte4289 on October 30, 2019, 08:33:08 PM
from the photos I think you have arrived at the solution and I have no proof to prove that you are wrong. In fact, even I didn't know the solution - as I said at the beginning.
two points for you
Thank you!