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Title: MJW #326 - Unidentified 3-wheeler spotted in Portugal in the 1980s
Post by: woodinsight on March 03, 2011, 04:21:35 AM
Name and year of this little car please
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Post by: woodinsight on March 14, 2011, 01:33:50 AM
No Rookie response so up it goes
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Post by: hugo90 on March 14, 2011, 07:47:39 PM
Spanish?
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Post by: woodinsight on March 15, 2011, 05:33:25 AM
Not Spanish although it is European
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Post by: woodinsight on March 20, 2011, 05:26:44 AM
Moving up
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Post by: Wendax on March 20, 2011, 05:30:43 AM
Well, I don't have a name for it, but a year. In the only source book of mine where it is mentioned, it is called an unknown Portuguese microcar from 1960. So I hope I can put a name to it soon.  :)
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: woodinsight on March 20, 2011, 06:06:36 AM
It is from 1960 but it's not Portuguese
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Post by: Wendax on March 20, 2011, 06:11:55 AM
French?
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Post by: woodinsight on March 20, 2011, 09:25:16 AM
Not French.....
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Post by: guido66 on March 20, 2011, 02:55:29 PM
From Andorra?
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Post by: woodinsight on March 21, 2011, 01:00:03 AM
Not Andorran.
It's from a well-established European car producing country but the image was taken in Portugal.
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Post by: Wendax on March 21, 2011, 05:51:15 AM
Must have come a long way then. Next try: Italy.
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Post by: woodinsight on March 21, 2011, 07:54:37 AM
Not Italy I'm afraid
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Post by: Wendax on March 21, 2011, 07:58:58 AM
Did it come all the way from Germany?
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Post by: woodinsight on March 21, 2011, 08:00:16 AM
Yes it did!
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Post by: woodinsight on April 25, 2011, 04:27:10 AM
I know little about this three-wheeler except its name, nationality and the year it was built.
We've established that it's German although it is shown in Portugal.

The name I have is two words (7 letters and 6 letters).
The first one doesn't sound appropriate for this car - more a term familiar in railway usage.
The second one ends in 'o'
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: Wendax on April 25, 2011, 04:40:11 AM
Is the first word Pullman?
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Post by: woodinsight on April 25, 2011, 04:42:04 AM
Quote from: Wendax on April 25, 2011, 04:40:11 AM
Is the first word Pullman?
Good guess but not Pullman.....
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on April 25, 2011, 04:50:38 AM
Is the first word sleeper?
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Post by: Tom_I on April 25, 2011, 05:38:19 AM
Or what about Express?
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Post by: woodinsight on April 25, 2011, 05:51:01 AM
Sleeper no
Express yes!

So it's Express xxxxxo
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 02:42:44 AM
Last clue for this one too -

The name is Express Caxxxo
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Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 04:33:15 AM
Camino?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 04:38:35 AM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 04:33:15 AM
Camino?
very close - one letter wrong!
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Post by: João on May 14, 2011, 05:04:04 AM
Camilo?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 14, 2011, 05:46:29 AM
Camina?
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Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 06:19:11 AM
Casino?
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Post by: Allemano on May 14, 2011, 07:07:49 AM
Canino?
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Post by: Allemano on May 14, 2011, 07:09:28 AM
Calino?
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Post by: Otto Puzzell on May 14, 2011, 07:18:24 AM
Cabino?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 09:11:34 AM
Not Camina, Camilo, Casino, Canino, Calino or Cabino!  ;D

Guido66 is closest........
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Post by: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
How about Carino?
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Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 09:58:21 AM
Catino?
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Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped, perhaps it was based on one of these?
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
How about Carino?
Carino is correct!
One point to you.
Hard luck to everyone else but thanks for joining in!
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 10:48:18 AM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped, perhaps it was based on one of these?
It seems to be that.
The car is a bit of a mystery to me and the only reference to it is from a letter in an old German magazine - see below:
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.
Ah.......unfortunately I don't speak German and didn't think to translate the letter  :-[
Thanks Guido, it'll teach me to be more careful in future.

So, what to do..
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
No problem  ;)

I think I've found the guy who wrote the letter. I've sent him an email to try and find out if he ever found more information on this vehicle.
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Post by: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?

I'm quite happy to relinquish the point. It was only gained by guessing at clues, after all.

I'm more interested in finding out what this car is, if we ever can. :)
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 01:14:52 PM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
No problem  ;)

I think I've found the guy who wrote the letter. I've sent him an email to try and find out if he ever found more information on this vehicle.
Hopefully we can learn more on this car - probably a 'one-off' built in Portugal.
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 01:18:56 PM
Quote from: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?

I'm quite happy to relinquish the point. It was only gained by guessing at clues, after all.

I'm more interested in finding out what this car is, if we ever can. :)
Well Tom although we didn't find the real identity you answered the clue correctly so I have no problem in you keeping that point - it's only a game after all.
I'm just as curious as you as to what it is - perhaps time will tell.
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 01:22:47 PM
After thinking this puzzle had been solved - it still remains a mystery and I'll (somewhat reluctantly) move it to the BH in case someone out there knows something more.
There's still a point to be gained by a positive identification.
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I've found and contacted the man who made the inquiry 20 years ago. Sadly he didn't receive any information back then. He confirmed that the moped and car have no relation.
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Post by: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 02:59:21 PM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I've found and contacted the man who made the inquiry 20 years ago. Sadly he didn't receive any information back then. He confirmed that the moped and car have no relation.
Thanks Guido
I guess it's a question of wait and see if anyone knows this obscure three-wheeler
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Post by: guido66 on May 15, 2011, 01:04:11 PM
The photo was taken in the late 80s in northern Portugal, by the father of Axel Wolters.
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Post by: DeAutogids on May 15, 2011, 04:50:03 PM
Does he have an original (or better scan)?
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Post by: GrahamClayton on November 02, 2024, 08:06:59 PM
Zweirad-Union Express Carino
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Post by: gte4289 on November 02, 2024, 08:36:43 PM
Quote from: GrahamClayton on November 02, 2024, 08:06:59 PM
Zweirad-Union Express Carino
That's the identify of the inquisitor's moped, but the puzzle vehicle remains unidentified.

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped...
The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.
Title: Re: MJW #326
Post by: gte4289 on February 23, 2025, 04:47:10 PM
Moved from Black Hole