PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)

Paul Jaray · February 13, 2013, 04:47:25 AM

What is this?
I don't know and I can't help you.
2 point for correct id.
(I have just a year for this)

SACO · February 13, 2013, 08:06:47 AM

Perhaps a relation with Pontiac ?

Paul Jaray · February 13, 2013, 08:10:08 AM

According to the date I have, It can't be...

kwgibbs · February 16, 2013, 07:21:49 AM

Could this be a chevrolet biscayne concept?

Paul Jaray · February 17, 2013, 11:22:56 AM

I do not have the answer.
I can't even find back where I took this pic $:-\$

Allemano · February 20, 2013, 02:46:42 PM

I'd love to know what it is, but don't think it's a big volume V8 of any kind. The bonnet and overall shape suggests a rather small Italian or maybe French car. (~1000cc)
Hope PJ can find his source again.

kwgibbs · February 20, 2013, 03:02:08 PM

I wonder if its an american dream car?

Wendax · February 20, 2013, 04:01:38 PM

I agree that it is probably not American, because it is RHD.

Allemano · February 20, 2013, 04:21:05 PM

Two fuel tanks, one on each side... Maybe a re-bodied mono-posto? Could it be a central driving position?

Paul Jaray · May 06, 2013, 02:44:03 PM

Here you are a bigger pic.
It is just a rendering and the date I have is 1952.
Next stop: black hole!

SeaLion · May 06, 2013, 06:57:35 PM

Could it be a Sixten Sason sketch for the first Saab Sonett? 6 prototypes was "produced" in 1956.

Sason's sketches was quite avant garde, here's a sketch from about 1950:

Paul Jaray · May 07, 2013, 03:51:10 AM

Ciao SeaLion,

always a pleasure hear back from you!
How is your project proceeding?
About the puzzle car, I really don't know, they share some lines indeed but I do not know the answer myself!

cljo · May 08, 2013, 04:17:37 AM

I do not think this is a Sason idea. No proof, but i lacks that special Sason flair and feeling. I´m quite deep into Sasons work and I don´t recognize this, but I would love to be proven wrong.

targhediferro · May 09, 2013, 02:52:34 PM

I've not idea at all, but I'd like to help someone else: I think wheels (if the drawing is faithful) look like those of a light bike, or anyway of a light car. So I suppose Allemano is right when he thinks it's a 1000cc or about.
Then I remember that this kind of drawings, usually show car as they were bigger than real.

Djetset · May 09, 2013, 05:46:34 PM

PJ, as you don't know much about this sketch, is there any point in asking which country it may originate from? I ask as I know I have seen this somewhere before, but really can not recall where, but I have a feeling it may be French(?)

Paul Jaray · May 09, 2013, 06:08:54 PM

I don't know any more than I wrote... $:-\$

Allemano · May 10, 2013, 01:22:40 PM

I'm staring at it day after day and some details still have my attention. The two petrol tanks (à la Lancia D50), the double-bubble-plexi-glass house and that third front light. (or is the other light hidden by the fender?).
I still go for an Italian car.

grobmotorix · June 10, 2013, 01:44:36 PM

QuoteI'm staring at it day after day

Just like me...

Paul Jaray · July 31, 2014, 05:01:06 PM

Shall I move it to the black hole?

grobmotorix · August 09, 2014, 11:22:03 AM

Give us a hint...

Paul Jaray · August 09, 2014, 02:46:28 PM

Unfortunately all I know I alreay shared...I had a date (1952) and probably I took this pic from Geoff's site, but there was nothing more I'm afraid

Let's hope we'll find more...

Allemano · August 23, 2014, 11:34:01 AM

So, after all it could be only an artist's day dream...

Paul Jaray · November 23, 2014, 04:31:53 AM

Black Hole!

grobmotorix · July 25, 2025, 04:44:51 PM

Isn´t that illustration from this Gurr book? (which I do not have...)

gte4289 · July 26, 2025, 01:33:09 PM

Quote from: grobmotorix on July 25, 2025, 04:44:51 PMIsn´t that illustration from this Gurr book? (which I do not have...)

I have the book and it does not contain this illustration.

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PJ - 485 (PJ66 Spin-off)