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Title: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 22, 2015, 04:00:18 PM
This one could be the easiest one of my puzzles.
I forgot where I took this pic but what I remember is that it's quite easy.
I can't add more and unfortunately I can't answer to many of your questions about it.

Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: pguillem on July 22, 2015, 10:01:17 PM
Is it Italian ?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2015, 12:35:15 AM
Not Italian.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 23, 2015, 12:58:48 AM
was it mass-produced?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2015, 03:04:10 AM
Nope but it was a prototype from a known maker. Problem is I don't remember which one..
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 23, 2015, 04:20:51 AM
was Carl Jurisch behind this little car?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2015, 04:46:57 AM
I'll reveal all I know.
This car is for sale somewhere.
I found it online and I remember it was featured in different places.
It's a prototype of a microcar from a company that later built some microcars (I think) and when I found it it was such a known name, that I didn't care to take any note, because I was confident I would have remembered it.
Now, the place where I saw it in the 1st place is no longer accessible, without knowing that name I can't find back all the others websites featuring it and the fact that it's a very easy name drives me crazy!
Now it's white.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 23, 2015, 10:58:00 AM
I can see where it would drive you crazy,it would me as well,but can you remember if it was European or American though?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2015, 11:44:38 AM
I'll bet from Germany.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 23, 2015, 11:59:02 AM
or nearby...I'll post a front view soon and you can tell from the license plate.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 23, 2015, 01:05:22 PM
the background does look rather alpine,Im wondering if there is a Schako-mobil connection.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2015, 03:56:47 AM
Front view:
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 26, 2015, 04:54:20 AM
it looks alittle bit like a Pinguin?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2015, 05:06:33 AM
Unfortunately I don't remember the answer but I don't think it was that...it was more like a regular maker of microcars (but I can be wrong!).
The bright side of it is that if you google the name with few words (like 'prototype' or 'for sale' and so on) this car shows up with several results, in its actual state: a white microcar in deed of a restoration.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 26, 2015, 10:07:26 AM
is trippel behind this little prototype?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2015, 10:36:37 AM
I don't think so.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 26, 2015, 11:17:23 AM
Im curious if Porsche was behind this car,the front looks very Porsche?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2015, 11:25:46 AM
Nope...it was something pretty easy, like DKW, Goggomobil, Felber and co.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Oguerrerob on July 26, 2015, 11:26:27 AM
Davis?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 26, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
Please, take note of my previous replies.
I do not remember which company.
What I remember is that it was quite easy, an absolutely well known maker and I promised myself to dig for more later because there were several website proposing it for sale not long ago. Problem is that now I can't remember that name and the original place where I saw it (a Facebook page) is long, long gone and I should scroll for some days to find it back.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Carnut on July 26, 2015, 11:38:12 AM
I tried Messerschmitt but nothing came up..
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on July 26, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
Hoffmann?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: pnegyesi on July 27, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
Zündapp?
(Oldtimer Kleinwagen 3-Rad 40er 50er Jahre. Zündapp Prototyp??) - but it had no papers so it's just the owner's imagination. This is the white car you mentioned
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: oko94 on July 27, 2015, 04:33:55 PM
I reckon it could be a Heinkel prototype but I haven't found any evidence.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: oko94 on July 27, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 27, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
Zündapp?
(Oldtimer Kleinwagen 3-Rad 40er 50er Jahre. Zündapp Prototyp??) - but it had no papers so it's just the owner's imagination. This is the white car you mentioned

I think I've found that white Zündapp prototype but it's not the puzzle car : it has a one-piece windshield, rear quarter windows and conventional doors.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: pguillem on July 27, 2015, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: kwgibbs on July 26, 2015, 11:46:41 AM
Hoffmann?

A good intuition indeed...
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: luisps on July 28, 2015, 04:07:40 AM
Could it be a final prototype to revamp the Austrian FELBER?
Incidently in the former pictures shows the names of Hoffmann and Schubert, I haven't found any relation between both brands as the Schuber was a homemade car from the East Germany with an IFA engine, the Hoffmann was a branf from W-Germany using their own engines, could you clarify?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 28, 2015, 08:18:36 AM
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 27, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
Zündapp?
(Oldtimer Kleinwagen 3-Rad 40er 50er Jahre. Zündapp Prototyp??) - but it had no papers so it's just the owner's imagination. This is the white car you mentioned
Quote from: oko94 on July 27, 2015, 04:39:59 PM
Quote from: pnegyesi on July 27, 2015, 04:29:59 PM
Zündapp?
(Oldtimer Kleinwagen 3-Rad 40er 50er Jahre. Zündapp Prototyp??) - but it had no papers so it's just the owner's imagination. This is the white car you mentioned

I think I've found that white Zündapp prototype but it's not the puzzle car : it has a one-piece windshield, rear quarter windows and conventional doors.

You wrote this few minutes after I found out just the same and posted it in Wendax's puzzle...I thought I had the time to post it here too!  ;D
I found back the white car for sale and it obviously it's not the same car. It's a good and a bad new.
Good new is that I can finally stop thinking of where I saw this, the bad new is that this is now a puzzle like any other but now I have no input to give... :huh:

License plate reads B-328. Where can it be? Could it be a clue? I do not known.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: pguillem on July 28, 2015, 10:29:00 AM
Quote from: luisps on July 28, 2015, 04:07:40 AM
Could it be a final prototype to revamp the Austrian FELBER?
Incidently in the former pictures shows the names of Hoffmann and Schubert, I haven't found any relation between both brands as the Schuber was a homemade car from the East Germany with an IFA engine, the Hoffmann was a branf from W-Germany using their own engines, could you clarify?

I found this on Scharroo's Grab Bag with this description :

This microcar looks a bit like the Heinkel Kabine, but is homemade by a GDR citizen Schubert from Hainichen. The car was originally equipped with a 350cc 15 hp 2-stroke 2-cylinder Ifa BK engine. The entrance is at the front by a door hinged at the bottom. Difficult boarding just as in the Polish Smyk B30.

According to the owner there are two cars built. This car is on display in the Störy Museum near Hildesheim, Germany.

Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on July 28, 2015, 10:32:29 AM
http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=9323.msg82634#msg82634
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Wendax on August 02, 2015, 06:30:19 PM
The licence  plate B-328 looks Austrian to me. B would be Burgenland.
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: kwgibbs on August 02, 2015, 07:00:43 PM
is this small car related to the 1953 Move?
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: oko94 on October 16, 2015, 11:29:39 AM
There's a question waiting for an answer apparently...
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on October 17, 2015, 04:22:34 AM
You are right, I forgot about this.
Unfortunately I do not have any answer to give.
I found a couple of pics with no info  :-\
Title: Re: PJ - 674
Post by: Paul Jaray on January 09, 2016, 07:27:41 AM
Black hole...  :-\