Unknown Coachbuilders #1

Iluvatar · June 09, 2011, 05:34:24 AM

A new group puzzle with five coachbuilt cars.
I don't know the coachbuilders and in some of them I don't know also other infos, so:

UC1a : one point for make, model and coachbuilder - Castagna Alfa Romeo 6C 2300B - 75america
UC1b : one point for make, model and coachbuilder. I think this is a car with a complex story... - Alfa Romeo 6C 2500 SS restored by Juri Aljoshin - Wendax
UC1c : I have a make and model (and coachbuilder) which I believe not true: one point for them but another point if you can give me proofs this is or this is not the correct ID of that car! - Alfa Romeo 3000 SS by Carrozzeria Amadei (??) - 75america
UC1d : one point for make, model and coachbuilder - Bugatti T49 by Pritchard & Demollin - fromwien
UC1e : one point for make, model and coachbuilder
An additional point if you can say where and when all the pics were shooted...

The puzzle isn't solved until I have all the coachbuilders!!!
Obviously I need proofs to give you the points...
MPC

Iluvatar · June 14, 2011, 06:49:55 AM

I think this is a little difficult for rookies, and I move up early...
I hope nobody would blame me for it...
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SACO · June 14, 2011, 07:00:09 AM

UC1e :Siata Amica 1939?

SACO · June 14, 2011, 07:11:12 AM

UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?

Iluvatar · June 14, 2011, 11:29:20 AM

Quote from: SACO on June 14, 2011, 07:00:09 AM
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939?

As I said before I don't know the cars, so you should prove it.
The year is correct so I locked it for you until your next reply.

Quote from: SACO on June 14, 2011, 07:11:12 AM
UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?

OK, the original body should be Touring, but I think the front of this car is something different...
Locked for you until your next reply.
MPC

D-type · June 14, 2011, 11:57:55 AM

The badge on the radiator of uc1b looks diamond-shaped. Riley? If so it could be that rather special Riley built in France either immediately before or after WW2.
Just a feeling.

als15 · June 14, 2011, 01:33:46 PM

UC1e is a ------------------------------

sorry: it's still locked.

als15 · June 14, 2011, 01:38:40 PM

UC1a should be a 1938 Fiat 1500 with Viotti body and a later rebuilt front-end. Probably refurbished after a post-war accident.

Iluvatar · June 15, 2011, 06:47:56 AM

Quote from: als15 on June 14, 2011, 01:38:40 PM
UC1a should be a 1938 Fiat 1500 with Viotti body and a later rebuilt front-end. Probably refurbished after a post-war accident.

I have another make...
...and another year...
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als15 · June 15, 2011, 07:05:09 AM

UC1c is a Fiat 1900 by Colli?

Iluvatar · June 15, 2011, 08:11:56 AM

Quote from: als15 on June 15, 2011, 07:05:09 AM
UC1c is a Fiat 1900 by Colli?

Different make also for this...but as I said I don't know the cars for sure!
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Iluvatar · June 16, 2011, 04:53:24 AM

Quote from: Iluvatar on June 14, 2011, 11:29:20 AM
Quote from: SACO on June 14, 2011, 07:00:09 AM
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939?
As I said before I don't know the cars, so you should prove it.
The year is correct so I locked it for you until your next reply.
Quote from: SACO on June 14, 2011, 07:11:12 AM
UC1b : Alfa 6C2500 SS Touring ?
OK, the original body should be Touring, but I think the front of this car is something different...
Locked for you until your next reply.

Last call for SACO.
You have 24h until I unlock the puzzles.
MPC

Iluvatar · June 17, 2011, 11:40:37 AM

The puzzle is now unlocked.
als15 if you want to say what UC1e is...
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SACO · June 29, 2011, 04:36:18 PM

UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !

als15 · June 29, 2011, 06:35:12 PM

Quote from: SACO on June 29, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !

I'm not sure: many parts are quite similar, but the nose is definitely different. Perhaps a poor repairing after a small accident?

Iluvatar · June 30, 2011, 03:34:49 AM

Quote from: als15 on June 29, 2011, 06:35:12 PM
Quote from: SACO on June 29, 2011, 04:36:18 PM
UC1e :Siata Amica 1939 Bertone !
I'm not sure: many parts are quite similar, but the nose is definitely different. Perhaps a poor repairing after a small accident?

I'm not really sure about the poor repairing...the car in the picture is at an Elegance Concours, so I think it's something more then poor...but everything is possible...
MPC

Iluvatar · July 01, 2011, 06:06:24 AM

I'm going away for a while...
You can do every discussion you want on these cars, and when I'll be back I'll see...
MPC

SACO · July 08, 2011, 04:20:53 AM

UC1d : Bugatti T49 1931 .

Iluvatar · July 13, 2011, 09:52:17 AM

Quote from: SACO on July 08, 2011, 04:20:53 AM
UC1d : Bugatti T49 1931 .

Type 49 is correct, I don't know the year...
...now let's go with the coachbuilder...
MPC

Iluvatar · July 30, 2011, 03:06:00 PM

Up to the pros...
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Wendax · July 30, 2011, 03:15:21 PM

#1b: It is an Alfa Romeo 8 C 2500 SS, which was found with a destroyed body in Russia. It was rebuild by Juri Aljoshin using old photos.

woodinsight · July 30, 2011, 03:50:47 PM

Just to add a little to Wendax's reply above, here is a photo of the car and an extract from an article on classic cars in Moscow.

75america · July 31, 2011, 03:55:52 AM

It was me who posted UC1c on that other interesting forum:
Alfa Romeo 3000 SS (

) by Carrozzeria Amadei

75america · July 31, 2011, 04:02:36 AM

UC1a: Alfa is a 6C2300B by Castagna

Iluvatar · July 31, 2011, 05:16:13 AM

Quote from: Wendax on July 30, 2011, 03:15:21 PM
#1b: It is an Alfa Romeo 8 C 2500 SS, which was found with a destroyed body in Russia. It was rebuild by Juri Aljoshin using old photos.

Although a 8C 2500 SS never exist (it's most likely a 6C 2500), I give you the point...

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