Solved - Name That Make #33: Another AP Group Puzzle (solved by pnegyesi, João & Djetset)

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ftg3plus4

#50
October 23, 2009, 04:50:52 PM
Nope on both counts.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#51
October 24, 2009, 06:38:29 AM
No13: R.H. (Raymond Hubert) from France, mid-1920s?

ftg3plus4

#52
October 24, 2009, 08:59:13 AM
Your persistence is admirable, but... not RH.

I'm running out of hints, but here's one: One of the cars is "no relation to"... something really big.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

#53
October 28, 2009, 07:58:51 AM
OK, well, the last 2 cars seem to have stalled in Expert-land, so it's time to push them over to the Pros.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

Paul Jaray

#54
October 28, 2009, 01:50:37 PM
Is #13 an OM? (I have also a model name for it but i'm not home...)

ftg3plus4

#55
October 28, 2009, 03:02:32 PM
Nope.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#56
October 31, 2009, 03:41:43 PM
I am stuck. I have browsed through the list of carmakers in "The complete Catalogue of British Cars 1895-1975" to find No12 about 6 or 7 times and cross-referenced it with the Beaulieu Encyclopedia. Nothing.
There are companies where the logo may have featured two initials, like Warren-Lambert, but I have not found the brand which is featured here.

I'll do the same with a French list soon

ftg3plus4

#57
October 31, 2009, 08:24:56 PM
Boy, I'm surprised you didn't find the British one... it's not all that obscure. You may have seen it listed by the full company name instead of its initials, although I'm pretty sure the make was generally known by the latter. Hint: It has the same initials as another two-letter make.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#58
November 02, 2009, 03:01:21 PM
Is No12 a Straker-Squire?

ftg3plus4

#59
November 02, 2009, 03:05:48 PM
Nope.

Hint: The make was around for only a few years, and an earlier car of theirs was less conventional-looking than this one. If I included a picture of it, that would possibly give the answer away.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

#61
November 02, 2009, 03:16:49 PM
Nope. Hint: It shares its initials with a large, well-known & totally unrelated company.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

ftg3plus4

#63
November 02, 2009, 03:33:02 PM
Nope.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#64
November 03, 2009, 07:49:27 AM
Could AP12 be a Varley Woods or VW?

ftg3plus4

#65
November 03, 2009, 07:52:25 AM
Nope.
And, just in case you misunderstood, it's #13 that shares initials with a famous company.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#66
November 03, 2009, 02:58:40 PM
My very last guess for No12 is WB.

ftg3plus4

#67
November 03, 2009, 03:10:30 PM
Ooh... close (in name), but not quite.

OK, a bigger hint: Before making this car, they made a 3-wheeler.
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

Allan L

#68
November 03, 2009, 04:06:20 PM
for no. 12, have we tried the TB (for Thompson Brothers) who made a three-wheeler, and who can say what else?
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

João

#69
November 03, 2009, 04:29:41 PM
AF     AC    AV   WW                          Already tryed,including the right ones,just to get easier
DB    GN   AL   DS
GP    HE   TB   OP
MB    FN   MS   RH
MG   SS    AN   SH
NG   FD    AS   VW
OM   HP   FD   WB
TX    WM  LM   
SP    LB   NP

ftg3plus4

#70
November 03, 2009, 08:04:31 PM Last Edit: November 03, 2009, 08:06:50 PM by ftg3plus4
#12 is not a TB.

Quote from: João on November 03, 2009, 04:29:41 PM
AF     AC    AV   WW                          Already tryed,including the right ones,just to get easier
DB    GN   AL   DS
GP    HE   TB   OP
MB    FN   MS   RH
MG   SS    AN   SH
NG   FD    AS   VW
OM   HP   FD   WB
TX    WM  LM   
SP    LB   NP
One of the remaining ones is on this list, the other isn't.

P.S.: Although no two of the cars in the puzzle are of the same make, sometimes more than one make has the same name...

P.P.S.: This is the first time anything in one of my puzzles has been harder than I thought it would be!
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#71
November 03, 2009, 11:05:21 PM
No12 is an MB by Merrall-Brown Motors Ltd.  And it is strange, because this make is not featured in my book on british cars, but information is widely available on the internet.

Now, that is out of the way, let's see what No13 could be?

ftg3plus4

#72
November 04, 2009, 08:11:26 AM Last Edit: November 05, 2009, 07:48:32 AM by ftg3plus4
Yes! Finally! One more to go...
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel

pnegyesi

#73
November 05, 2009, 02:16:12 AM
Let's get this one declare solved!

No13 is a GM 7CV by Gendron and Michelot

Photo is from PreWarCar

ftg3plus4

#74
November 05, 2009, 07:51:05 AM
Yes!  I can't swear as to where the photo originally came from, but that's it!

01 - GN cyclecar - João
02 - 1962 MB Moldex - João
03 - 1920 LM light car - pnegyesi
04 - MS voiturette - pnegyesi
05 - SP Spi-Tri prototype - pnegyesi
06 - 1972 TX Tripper - pnegyesi
07 - 1935 SS Mark II - João
08 - 1928 OM Tipo 665 - João
09 - 1978 GP Centron - Djetset
10 - 1924 HE - João
11 - AN cyclecar - pnegyesi
12 - 1920 MB (British) - pnegyesi
13 - GM 7CV - pnegyesi
14 - 1939 DB DB2 - Djetset
15 - NG TC - Djetset
16 - AS cyclecar - pnegyesi
17 - 1919 AV monocar - pnegyesi
18 - AF Spider - Djetset
19 - 1922 TB Standard - João

Total scores:
pnegyesi - 9
João - 6
Djetset - 4
"May I submit 'Utopian Turtletop'? Do not trouble to answer unless you like it."
-- Marianne Moore, suggesting a name for what would become the Edsel
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