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Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« on: May 28, 2012, 05:34:37 PM »
Over the past few months I've been coming across some pictures of cars unknown to me, but unfortunately there weren't even any descriptions coming along with them. So don't ask me anything about these cars. I don't know what they are. The only thing they have in common is that probably they all are postwar cars from Germany or Austria.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2012, 06:35:40 PM »
The postwar Enigma 2 is Müller&Schmidt-mobil 200cc 1950 ‘Jones&Smith-mobile’ was an one-off home-made microcar built by mechanic Albert Hahne from Thale, DDR with DKW engine and Auto Union logo

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2012, 02:18:02 AM »
 Identified:
#1:
#2: Müller & Schmidt-Mobil Harzperle by Albert Hahne (Oguerrerob), see also: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/features-stories-and-photos/eigenbau-of-the-month/msg431233/#msg431233
#3:
#4:
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#6:
#7: Partially solved: East German, around 1950, perhaps Hansa 1100 chassis (Carnut), see also: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/features-stories-and-photos/eigenbau-of-the-month/msg491774/#msg491774
#8: Universal body by Wille, see https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/rookie-autopuzzles/pn-1160/
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2012, 02:18:48 AM »
The postwar Enigma 2 is Müller&Schmidt-mobil 200cc 1950 ‘Jones&Smith-mobile’ was an one-off home-made microcar built by mechanic Albert Hahne from Thale, DDR with DKW engine and Auto Union logo
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I should have known that one, having seen the colorized pictures at MrScharroo's picture account.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2012, 07:44:07 AM »
One more postwar enigma added (#9).

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2012, 07:30:47 AM »
I wonder if #3 could be another variation on the built-from-plans Pilot as seen here?

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20895.0

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 08:35:14 AM »
I wonder if #3 could be another variation on the built-from-plans Pilot as seen here?

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20895.0
I think it rather unprobable that those plans were known in post-WW II Germany.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 09:06:27 AM »
I wonder if #3 could be another variation on the built-from-plans Pilot as seen here?

http://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/index.php?topic=20895.0
I think it rather unprobable that those plans were known in post-WW II Germany.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2012, 03:30:33 AM »
One more postwar enigma added (#10) and, yes, I know where the door originates from.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2012, 07:36:09 AM »
Saved #9 for a future puzzle until I've found it here again...

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2012, 07:38:37 AM »
Saved #9 for a future puzzle until I've found it here again...
Do you know anything about it except where the picture was taken?

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2012, 07:45:04 AM »
Nothing except we both know from that internet source...

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2012, 01:03:40 PM »
Enigma #11 added

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2012, 12:21:00 PM »
I  have no. 3 as being called a 'Europa' but I can't remember off-hand where I found it.
Here are a couple of pictures of it below.
I'll have a look into it tomorrow!

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2012, 05:08:28 AM »
Does No6 wears an Austrian number plate?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2012, 05:13:10 AM »
Yes

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2012, 05:20:18 AM »
Do you have any other view available?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2012, 05:38:57 AM »
No

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2012, 05:39:26 AM »
what is the first letter of the Austrian number plate?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2012, 05:45:14 AM »
It was W for Vienna.
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2012, 01:26:22 PM »
what is the first letter of the Austrian number plate?
Yes

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2012, 01:44:04 PM »
I see, then it is not the one I had in mind
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2012, 04:09:21 AM »
Does this look like your No6?
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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2012, 04:12:15 AM »
It looks like another car to me, but you should post it as a puzzle. It surely is obscure.

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Re: Enigma Variations (Postwar edition)
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2012, 04:36:42 AM »
Your pic no11 just popped up in Austro Classic as an unknown
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