Solved - MJW #623 - Beers Floating Pullman bodied by Verheul 1933

woodinsight · October 05, 2011, 12:02:14 PM

Probably an easy one but what is the make of this vehicle, what was it known as, the year it was built and who was the coachbuilder? One point for the complete and correct answer.

woodinsight · October 11, 2011, 05:08:19 PM

Easy Expert point?

pguillem · October 12, 2011, 01:30:56 AM

Is it a Diamond T ?

woodinsight · October 12, 2011, 04:22:02 AM

Not a Diamond T and not American.

pguillem · October 12, 2011, 09:46:41 AM

From Japan ?

woodinsight · October 12, 2011, 11:58:34 AM

Not from Japan or anywhere in the Asia/Far East region.

pguillem · October 12, 2011, 12:36:30 PM

Maybe Holland ?

woodinsight · October 12, 2011, 12:45:27 PM

Quote from: pguillem on October 12, 2011, 12:36:30 PM
Maybe Holland ?

Yes it is Dutch

pguillem · October 12, 2011, 08:13:58 PM

Is it a Ten Cate ?

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 03:15:51 AM

Quote from: pguillem on October 12, 2011, 08:13:58 PM
Is it a Ten Cate ?

Not Ten Cate - wrong end of the alphabet ;)

pguillem · October 13, 2011, 10:03:02 AM

Could it be an A.S. ?

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 10:44:32 AM

Quote from: pguillem on October 13, 2011, 10:03:02 AM
Could it be an A.S. ?

Not that and it doesn't start with an 'A'

pguillem · October 13, 2011, 01:31:13 PM

Crossley ?

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 01:46:39 PM

Quote from: pguillem on October 13, 2011, 01:31:13 PM
Crossley ?

Not Crossley. It doesn't start with a 'C'.

pguillem · October 13, 2011, 05:22:18 PM

Beers ?

woodinsight · October 13, 2011, 10:40:53 PM

Quote from: pguillem on October 13, 2011, 05:22:18 PM
Beers ?

Beers it is.
I'll lock it for you to complete the remaining information.

pguillem · October 14, 2011, 01:04:10 PM

I think I'm reaching my limits. Beers (Den Haag) began importing Diamond T trucks in the 30's as well as Chenard-Walcker vans and Chausson buses after WW2 and built its first Handyvan in 1954 on a Scania-Vabis chassis.

I never saw this oplegger before. The tractor seems to be Diamond T, judging from the small diamond on the grille and the trailer could be made by Lamboo, as for this GMC. But I dont't know anything more about this Vliegende Hollander, probably used on the seashore.

woodinsight · October 14, 2011, 03:13:55 PM

The Beers in the puzzle dates from 1933 and had a chassis known as the Floating Tractor.
It could also be had with a semi-trailer carrying a bus body and was known as a Beers -------- -------
and was bodied by ------- (the dashes equal the number of letters in each word)
Still locked for you.

pguillem · October 14, 2011, 09:23:12 PM

I'll go for Kusters as coachbuider because I found a Kusters trambus very similar to the Beers trambus I knew. As for the name of this oplegger, pushing my Dutch knowledge to its ultimate limits, I'll try Rijdende Tractor. May the Dutch puzzlers not make fun of me...

woodinsight · October 15, 2011, 02:33:57 PM

Quote from: pguillem on October 14, 2011, 09:23:12 PM
I'll go for Kusters as coachbuider because I found a Kusters trambus very similar to the Beers trambus I knew. As for the name of this oplegger, pushing my Dutch knowledge to its ultimate limits, I'll try Rijdende Tractor. May the Dutch puzzlers not make fun of me...

No it's not that and I'm sure Dutch puzzlers will not make fun of you.
I'm opening it up again and thank you for your interesting replies.

pguillem · October 16, 2011, 10:09:26 AM

Is it Verheul-bodied ? I think that it is a trekker, the dutch word for tractor. Could it be Drijvend Trekker ?

woodinsight · October 16, 2011, 11:41:31 AM

Quote from: pguillem on October 16, 2011, 10:09:26 AM
Is it Verheul-bodied ? I think that it is a trekker, the dutch word for tractor. Could it be Drijvend Trekker ?

Yes it is bodied by Verheul.
I only have what it was called in English and I'm going to give you the point as you have clearly guessed most of the puzzle correctly.
It was named the Beers Floating Pullman bodied by Verheul in 1933.

pguillem · October 16, 2011, 12:29:55 PM

I drink to that. There's nothing about it in the Web. :popcorn:

DeAutogids · October 17, 2011, 03:34:09 AM

Quote from: pguillem on October 12, 2011, 01:30:56 AM
Is it a Diamond T ?

It is based on it though

woodinsight · October 17, 2011, 05:41:54 PM

Quote from: DeAutogids on October 17, 2011, 03:34:09 AM
Quote from: pguillem on October 12, 2011, 01:30:56 AM
Is it a Diamond T ?
It is based on it though

Adriaan Beers was for many years a distributor for Diamond T chassis as well as others such as Berliet, Chenard et Walcker, etc.
He started manufacturing his own vehicles in 1933 but whether it was based on a Diamond T I don't know but I guess it was possible.
The Floating Tractor was initially fitted with a Kromhout-Gardner 4W oil engine but that was replaced with a Dorman-Ricardo 40UR engine in 1934.

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Solved - MJW #623 - Beers Floating Pullman bodied by Verheul 1933