CG #5 - Roadless Traction Ltd. conversion on a White car

[Craig Gillingham]

I think this one is more for the experts.

For 1 point, name the car that this vehicle is based on, and who did the tracked conversion?

[Manuel]

Could it be based on a White?

Manuel in Oz

[Craig Gillingham]

Yes, it's a White. Just need to know who did the tracked conversion, and the point is yours.

I'm not sure how I actually Lock something, can someone tell me?

In the meantime, it's Locked for you to come up with the rest.

[Manuel]

I have not seen flexible rubber/leather/canvass? tracks this early. They are more like continuous belts and have no tread.
If it is in the USA: there was Holt/Best/Cat, Monarch, Bates, Bear & Cletrac. They all built tracked vehicles in the 20s and earlier.
I am new here and enjoy the challenge. Have not posted a pic yet.
Cheers,
Manuel in Oz

[Craig Gillingham]

I suppose they are more like continuous belts than tracks, I hadn't considered that before. But the company that did the conversion was well known for proper tracked conversions (with cleats) for many years.

Not from the USA.

This is my 5th post. I only started yesterday.

[Manuel]

I would love to see how the steering wheel controls the belts. Fiat had wheel controlled dozers in the 50s & 60s.

Manuel in Oz

[Carnut]

Have not posted a pic yet.
Cheers,
Manuel in Oz

You have to achieve Expert status first.
Only 18 points to go!

[Carnut]

I'm not sure how I actually Lock something, can someone tell me?

You can't physically do it.
You just say it's locked and rely on people to respect that.

[Craig Gillingham]

I would love to see how the steering wheel controls the belts. Fiat had wheel controlled dozers in the 50s & 60s.

This is the only photo I can find, there are a lot of patent drawings online, but a few too many for me to wade through to find the steering mechanisim. But I can forward the details of this later on.

It's not Fiat related, but is from Europe, a bit further fo the West from Italy.

You can't physically do it.
You just say it's locked and rely on people to respect that

Thank you, I was looking for a special button.

[Craig Gillingham]

This one is Unlocked.

[RayTheRat]

Spain?

[Craig Gillingham]

Not Spain.

[geology]

My Father has this image on his computer, he has the following info attached to it


" Lieutenant Colonel Philips Johnson created in 1919 the 'Roadless Traction Limited'. He made many Track Conversions on Ford tractors but, about 1920, studied and built in his Department of Tank Design and experiment the White Staff Observation Car (picture) with tracks and perplexing cable suspension for the U.S. Army."

[Craig Gillingham]

Exactly correct.

[Manuel]

Interesting.
If I knew it was from the UK I may have suggested County and Roadless. But being a White I thought it was in the USA :-(
Are there any more pics or more info?
Cheers,
Manuel in Oz

[Craig Gillingham]

Are there any more pics or more info?

This is the only photo I can recall seeing. I thought I would be able to find the patent drawings online, but couldn't.

I did find another odd tracked conversion, but by a different inventor. I think you'd want to be very fit to ride it.

[Tom_I]

Here are some more pics.