Solved TGF-59: Mercedes-Benz 170 H, 1936, Hermann Lang (perhaps Baur)

Started by targhediferro, March 01, 2013, 12:47:58 PM

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targhediferro

Make, model, year and coachbuilder (I need a prove because my source is not sure about this last question)of this pretty car to add a point at your own treasure.

targhediferro


DeAutogids

It has a bit of Steyr about it. Maybe a coachbuild 1500?

targhediferro

not a Steyr, sorry.

mekubb


DeAutogids


targhediferro

Indeed so...I add that in my opinion it's a proper Mercedes-Benz, partially modified.  Tell me the model and I'll lock it for you to add the coachbuilder.

DeAutogids

With that nose I think probably a Mercedes with the engine at the rear?

targhediferro


targhediferro

I think it's useful a little clue;  as I told I'm not sure about the coachbuilder, but I can add that this car belonged to a well known man who was connected with Mercedes-Benz.

Bill Murray

It is a Mercedes 170 H I am quite sure but I have had no luck with the coachbuilder even after a couple of hours of searching.  I found your photo on the internet by Googling "Mercedes 170 Heck" but there was just the same photo with no details.

To my eyes, the number plate looks to be Austrian but that may be incorrect.

Hopefully someone else will get the answer pretty quick.  I am lost for the moment.

Bill
Cheers
Bill

targhediferro

It's a 170H modified for its owner, perhaps it is easier to find him than who modified it.

mekubb

Body by Ludewig / Essen ?

targhediferro

Not the one I have...but if have a prove, as I told before it would be better to identify the owner of this car.

D-type

A long shot: was it owned by Ferdinand Porsche?
Duncan Rollo

The more you learn, the more you realise how little you know.

targhediferro

Not Porsche, but it's probably they met or almost knew one each other.

Hiawatha

A shot in the dark... Alfred Neubauer?

targhediferro

not Neubauer....the owner was faster! ;)

Hiawatha


mekubb


targhediferro

Hiawatha got the name....The car belonged to Hermann Lang and He's the man who asked to modify his own car in order to get it more streamlined.  So I think fine to award Hiawatha with a point;  I've been told that He committed the work to Baur (Lang too was from Stuttgart), but I've no prove about it.
The picture comes from a Lang family album, sold some years ago in a Automobilia auction.

nicanary

This makes some sense. Lang was head mechanic until 1936 before he was given a chance at driving, and he would therefore not have been considered high enough in rank to qualify for one of the M-B luxury cars. (Consider the cars that drivers like Caracciola and Rosemeyer had for their personal use. ) Lang was often regarded by the more aristocratic team members (especially von Brauchitsch) as someone beneath them in the social order.
I must be right - that's what it says on Wikipedia