Solved - NEH 3597: Scaglietti workshop in mid/late 1950s

Started by Carnut, July 08, 2014, 07:14:20 AM

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Carnut

Where was this picture taken, for 1 point?
If you can tell me what is being worked on there's another point available, but I don't know the correct answer so proof is required!

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Pininfarina workshop?
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nicanary

Not that easy! I thought it was Williams & Prtichard!

Italian?
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Carnut

Quote from: nicanary on July 29, 2014, 05:20:46 AM
Not that easy! I thought it was Williams & Prtichard!

Italian?

It is Italian - ergo not W&P!
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nicanary

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Carnut

Quote from: nicanary on July 29, 2014, 06:00:08 AM
Scaglietti?

Yes it is!
So the puzzle is solved but anyone can earn a point if they can correctly identify the car being worked on; as mentioned I haven't been able to work it out..

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nicanary

I am having some difficulty just like you - I thought it was going to be an Osca, but can find no match anywhere. It looks too large to be one of the "etceterini". What is interesting is that it seems to have a twin-cam engine with distributors on the front of each cam cover, just like the Triumph "Sabrina". This does not tally with an Alfa or Osca engine, nor the Maserati 150S. Interesting problem to solve - the car looks very attractive and you'd think it would be well-documented.

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Carnut

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nicanary

Yes, the Skoda crossed my mind, but I can hardly believe that the Czechs would sub-contract the bodywork to an Italian workshop during that period in their history. Very similar at the front, though. The car even looks a bit like some Lotus models.

I reckon that engine holds the clue.
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nicanary

I've just been looking into other possibilities, since the front end looked like the Willment-Climax, and the rear end like a WRE-Maserati. In fact these cars are related, which I didn't know, and the story of these cars is recounted in brief on an AP puzzle for the WRE sports car.

The original WRE was bodied by Williams & Pritchard, but later cars were bodied in Italy by a small coachbuilder by the name of Gentelini e Allegretti, and apparently these were slightly different in appearance. They were RHD just like this mystery car. Not that any of this leads us to the answer, but it has got me thinking. (I can only find the puzzle photo on one site, and it does not actually confirm categorically that these are Scaglietti's workshops.)
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Carnut

The plot thickens!
We've had cars by Allegretti on AP before; I had an Allegretti Ferrari featured a few months ago.
They were Ferrari's body-builders so I wonder if in fact they did do much for other makers?  Were they eventually owned by Ferrari?
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nicanary

Photo of the Willment - very similar front end treatment.
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nicanary

And the rear of a WRE - twin headrests on this one, but they didn't all have them. The openings for the headlights haven't yet been cut in the puzzle photo, which doesn't help much.
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Carnut

Quote from: SACO on December 04, 2014, 02:26:38 AM
A Ferrari ?

Being Scaglietti it's very likely, but I couldn't identify a particular Ferrari.
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Allemano

The rear fenders suggest rather narrow wheels, so I guess it's smaller than a Ferrari. What about Ermini?