It's all in the name - Solved by Ehhxekt, Allan L, ImpishGrin, Allemano and Paul Jaray

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Ray B.

A NEW PAIRING PUZZLE:
20 faces, 20 cars. All these people gave their names to a car make. Your job is to make pairs. Some are easy to find, some will be tougher, there's even a custom.

THE RULES:
I will only answer to posts who propose a pair. A correct pairing is worth 2 points.
Identification or just a car, or a face, WON'T BE ANSWERED AT ALL and gets you nothing.
Please give the first NAME AND SURNAME of the "faces", and the make and eventually model and year of the cars.
Erroneous pairings will bring a "50% correct" answer from me. I won't say what's right, the car or the man. You must keep searching, but other puzzlers can't  take advantage of your answer to complete the pair.

This puzzle will remain about a week in the expert section, then move up to pro level so they can have fun too.
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Ray B.

#1
Now the last ten cars.
Oh, I forgot to say (but you're getting used to it): some badges have been blurred or erased, naturally.
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ImpishGrin

#2
F10 - David Dunbar Buick
#6 - Buick Grand National GNX (1987)

F18 - Nicola Romeo
#16 - Alfa Romeo Arna (1983-1987)

F3 - Louis Chevrolet
#19 - Chevrolet Chevette
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Allan L

#3
F11 the Hon Charles Rolls - Car 14 c1915 Rolls-Royce armoured car
F12 Herbert Austin - Car 11 c1924 Austin 16
F16  Walter Owne Bentley - car 20 an unbelievably tarted-up Bentley 3 litre of about 1922
F17 Mercédès Jellinek - Car 4 1914 Grand Prix Mercédès
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Ray B.

#4
Quote from: ImpishGrin on November 23, 2008, 12:31:53 PM
F10 - David Dunbar Buick
#6 - Buick Grand National GNX (1987)   :)

F18 - Nicola Romeo
#16 - Alfa Romeo Arna (1983-1987)  :)

F3 - Louis Chevrolet
#19 - Chevrolet Chevette   :) (year please?)
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Ehhxekt

F-8: James Ward Packard
#09: Packard Panther Daytona 1954

F-5: John North Willys
#07: Aero-Willys 2600 1963

Ray B.

Quote from: Allan L on November 23, 2008, 12:50:31 PM
F11 the Hon Charles Rolls - Car 14 c1915 Rolls-Royce armoured car  :)
F12 Herbert Austin - Car 11 c1924 Austin 16 75% correct. Year and model wrong
F16  Walter Owne Bentley - car 20 an unbelievably tarted-up Bentley 3 litre of about 1922 75%correct. Year wrong. Coachbuilder would be nice
F17 Mercédès Jellinek - Car 4 1914 Grand Prix Mercédès  75% correct. I've got a different year, and a driver's name. Can you find it, or prove me wrong?
As he is very close, these pairs and points are locked to anyone but Allan for 10 days.
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Ray B.

Quote from: Ehhxekt on November 23, 2008, 01:03:55 PM
F-8: James Ward Packard
#09: Packard Panther Daytona 1954  :)

F-5: John North Willys
#07: Aero-Willys 2600 1963  :)

Damn! This is going much faster than I thought.
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ImpishGrin

Quote from: Ray B. on November 23, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
F3 - Louis Chevrolet
#19 - Chevrolet Chevette   :) (year please?)

1977-1983
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Ehhxekt

F-4: Charles W. Nash
#05: Nash Ambassador 8 1936

Allemano

F-13 is Vincenzo "Censin" Lancia.
Name-15 is the Appia engined Lancia 'Dagrada' Formula Junior from 1959.

Ehhxekt

F-19: Ransom Eli Olds
#10: Oldsmobile Firenza Coupe. For the year I only have a guess: 1988.

Ray B.

Quote from: ImpishGrin on November 23, 2008, 01:23:00 PM
Quote from: Ray B. on November 23, 2008, 12:59:42 PM
F3 - Louis Chevrolet
#19 - Chevrolet Chevette   :) (year please?)

1977-1983
You could be more precise. You'll have the point, though.

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Ray B.

Quote from: Allemano on November 23, 2008, 02:01:59 PM
F-13 is Vincenzo "Censin" Lancia.
Name-15 is the Appia engined Lancia 'Dagrada' Formula Junior from 1959.  :)
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Ray B.

Quote from: Ehhxekt on November 23, 2008, 03:02:10 PM
F-19: Ransom Eli Olds
#10: Oldsmobile Firenza Coupe. For the year I only have a guess: 1988.  :)
It's a 1987, but close enough.
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Ehhxekt

Great puzzle!

F-1: Freelan O. Stanley
#02: A Stanley Steamer. 725 Touring from about 1916?
F-7: André Citroën
#03: Citroën Rosalie 10 NH Cabriolet 1934
F-15: Joseph L. Hudson
#13: Hudson H Racer 1916
F-20: Horace Elgin Dodge
#17: Dodge Dart hot rod. It started its life as a 270 Convertible in 1965, I guess.

F-2 is Lionel Martin, co-founder of Aston Martin Motors Ltd. I think he is supposed to be paired with car #18, which is a Lagonda V12 Rapide Drophead Coupe from 1938-39. I'm not sure these cars were built and sold as Astons. As far as I know, the merger betwen Lagonda and Aston Martin took only place in 1948 when David Brown, who had bought both companies, unified them.

ImpishGrin

I'm actually sure they weren't ;) Lionel Martin was the first person I recognised (Aston Martin is my favourite brand), but no matter how I tried I haven't been able to match a car to him :P
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Allan L

Quote from: Ehhxekt on November 24, 2008, 04:57:36 AM
F-2 is Lionel Martin, co-founder of Aston Martin Motors Ltd. I think he is supposed to be paired with car #18, which is a Lagonda V12 Rapide Drophead Coupe from 1938-39. I'm not sure these cars were built and sold as Astons. As far as I know, the merger betwen Lagonda and Aston Martin took only place in 1948 when David Brown, who had bought both companies, unified them.

Yes I'm blowed if I can find someone called "Lagonda", bearing in mind too that the company was not given its founder's name!

I assumed that the name has to be the same as the company/car.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

ImpishGrin

Well, maybe we can find a certain mr. Rapide there? ;D
It's not denial, I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.

Ray B.

Quote from: Ehhxekt on November 24, 2008, 04:57:36 AM
Great puzzle!
Appreciated
F-1: Freelan O. Stanley
#02: A Stanley Steamer. 725 Touring from about 1916?  :)My source doesn't give any details about the model and I didn't check. I'm taking your word for it.
F-7: André Citroën
#03: Citroën Rosalie 10 NH Cabriolet 1934  :) But from what I know "cabriolet" is not the right word. What would it be?
F-15: Joseph L. Hudson
#13: Hudson H Racer 1916  :)
F-20: Horace Elgin Dodge
#17: Dodge Dart hot rod. It started its life as a 270 Convertible in 1965, I guess.  :) 1964. Close enough

F-2 is Lionel Martin, co-founder of Aston Martin Motors Ltd. I think he is supposed to be paired with car #18, which is a Lagonda V12 Rapide Drophead Coupe from 1938-39. I'm not sure these cars were built and sold as Astons. As far as I know, the merger betwen Lagonda and Aston Martin took only place in 1948 when David Brown, who had bought both companies, unified them.  :) You're right. My source's mistake, but I didn't check.

Ehhxekt (gosh, man, I have to check each time so as not to mis-spell your name!) has the 2 points for the Martin pair, as he cleverly guessed my mistake. Nevertheless, I think that Impi... (same remark) and Allan L (no problem there) both deserve a point for having been mislead by me. Sorry.
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Ray B.

Quote from: Ehhxekt on November 23, 2008, 01:43:16 PM
F-4: Charles W. Nash
#05: Nash Ambassador 8 1936  :)
I'm moving it to pro level, but the poor guys have only three left...
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Allan L

Quote from: Ray B. on November 23, 2008, 01:08:28 PM
Quote from: Allan L on November 23, 2008, 12:50:31 PM
F11 the Hon Charles Rolls - Car 14 c1915 Rolls-Royce armoured car  :)
F12 Herbert Austin - Car 11 c1924 Austin 16 75% correct. Year and model wrong
F16  Walter Owne Bentley - car 20 an unbelievably tarted-up Bentley 3 litre of about 1922 75%correct. Year wrong. Coachbuilder would be nice
F17 Mercédès Jellinek - Car 4 1914 Grand Prix Mercédès  75% correct. I've got a different year, and a driver's name. Can you find it, or prove me wrong?
As he is very close, these pairs and points are locked to anyone but Allan for 10 days.
Thanks, Ray. Those were just dredged from memory, without time to look anything up.
The Grand Prix Mercédès must be the 1914 model, but the comp. nos. in 1914 were
Pilette 4
Sailer 14
Lautenschlager 28
Salzer 39
Wagner 40

The car that de Palma drove to victory at Indianapolis in 1915 was numbered 2 as it was in other 1915 races.
It was numbered 10 at the Chicago 300 mile race in 1916 and for most of the 1916 races.
Opinionated but sometimes wrong

Ehhxekt

#22
Quote from: Ray B. on November 24, 2008, 05:23:50 AM
#03: Citroën Rosalie 10 NH Cabriolet 1934  :) But from what I know "cabriolet" is not the right word. What would it be?

Could it be 'Décapotable', then?
EDIT: Oops, this was a stupid guess. The car has a pillarless phaeton body. Phaetons are often called 'Tourers': is that the right word?

Allan L

Quote from: Allan L on November 23, 2008, 12:50:31 PM

F16  Walter Owen Bentley - car 20 an unbelievably tarted-up Bentley 3 litre of about 1922

It appears on an internet site as a 1926 Speed model with a Barker body.
I'm not convinced that beaded edge tyres were still fitted in 1926 and I've never seen a Barker body that looked so strange, but there you go!
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Ray B.

Quote from: Allan L on November 23, 2008, 12:50:31 PM

F17 Mercédès Jellinek - Car 4 1914 Grand Prix Mercédès
Allan: I'm not so good ad old Mercedes racing cars, so I guess you've got the year and model right. But from my source (and it seems a very documented source), the race is the1922 Targa Florio, and the car  La numero 38 , une Mercedes 28-95 7.300cc conduite par Max Sailer (6°)
The points are yours.
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