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Solved NIC#907 - Coffield Mk III H-mod

Started by nicanary, November 11, 2017, 07:42:27 AM

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nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 09, 2018, 09:15:42 AM
Cosworth?

No. You're on the right lines in a way - both Lotus and Cosworth were associated with the maker of the engine.
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nicanary

Quote from: Carnut on January 09, 2018, 11:21:27 AM
Ford?!

Yes, that was the engine fitted to this car. However, it was in slightly unusual form.
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tobytwirl

Not a mid-engined V4?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 09, 2018, 06:13:01 PM
Not a mid-engined V4?

Not a V4. Mid-engined by the looks of things.
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tobytwirl

It is not one of the 105e engined Begras is it?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 10, 2018, 05:21:54 PM
It is not one of the 105e engined Begras is it?

Now we're getting somewhere (sort of). The engine was a 105E unit, but it's not a Begra. Work out what race series and you may solve this.
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tobytwirl

Well I assume we are talking about early-mid 1960s and the SCCA G-Modified class. This had been the province of Lotus 11s and Lola mk1s until a Merlin came along. In the meantime Begras and the associated Beach and Grady cars were quite successful, but if it's not them I am struggling. Is it a Bobsy?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 11, 2018, 11:42:38 AM
Well I assume we are talking about early-mid 1960s and the SCCA G-Modified class. This had been the province of Lotus 11s and Lola mk1s until a Merlin came along. In the meantime Begras and the associated Beach and Grady cars were quite successful, but if it's not them I am struggling. Is it a Bobsy?

It's not a Bobsy. We are indeed in the SCCA arena, but it's not G-Mod even if the choice of engine would suggest so. I said there was something unusual!
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tobytwirl

So was the capacity altered to fit it into another class - eg reduced to fit H-mod.

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 11, 2018, 03:09:45 PM
So was the capacity altered to fit it into another class - eg reduced to fit H-mod.

Bingo! That's exactly what happened. Now - who built this car?
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tobytwirl

Not found the picture, but in the most obscure place imaginable, found reference to the late Frank Davis who used to race one of Don Millers 42 sports cars with a Ford engine sleeved to 850cc(?) - from about 1963.

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 12, 2018, 03:26:18 PM
Not found the picture, but in the most obscure place imaginable, found reference to the late Frank Davis who used to race one of Don Millers 42 sports cars with a Ford engine sleeved to 850cc(?) - from about 1963.

Not him I'm afraid.
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tobytwirl

I have searched every site I know, and I have an amazing knowledge of SCCA H-mods now, but they all have Saab or Crosley engines. Where have I gone wrong?
Were the builder's other cars also H-Mods?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 20, 2018, 08:56:26 PM
I have searched every site I know, and I have an amazing knowledge of SCCA H-mods now, but they all have Saab or Crosley engines. Where have I gone wrong?
Were the builder's other cars also H-Mods?

The source of my photo suggests that 6 cars were built, all to H-mod spec. There is no mention of other cars built by him for other formulae, although this could be the case. I don't know.
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tobytwirl

Was this the only one with the Ford engine?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 21, 2018, 12:37:53 PM
Was this the only one with the Ford engine?

I believe some of them had other engines.
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tobytwirl

Just can't find this so I must resort to firing odd h-mod names at you that contain what looks like a builders name - does it begin with a letter between a-k?

nicanary

Quote from: tobytwirl on January 26, 2018, 03:22:20 PM
Just can't find this so I must resort to firing odd h-mod names at you that contain what looks like a builders name - does it begin with a letter between a-k?

;D Yes.
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nicanary

Neither pf those, but alphabetically the name you require is very shortly after Bryan.
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tobytwirl

Thank you for the hint! If it begins with C I only know two cars for which I can find no real details -  Clovis and Case - and I have no confidence in either......

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nicanary

None of those three, I'm afraid.

(I'm also afraid that I have got this all wrong. You are clearly searching all records of H-mod cars and have not identified a car of which 6 were supposedly made. This has got me worried that I have misconstrued the text of my source. However, I have done a google search using the name of the maker, and my information does seem correct. In the same source article, someone else claims to have another of his cars, and uses a name for the car which is hypenated, and also includes the name of another H-mod maker, i.e. he calls his car a ????????-other car. However, it seems that this latter name only relates to the bodywork, and not the base car. I doubt that this garbled info will be a lot of use!)
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