Solved TGF-298; Carroceria J.Vert woody wagon, unknown base.

targhediferro · November 27, 2013, 10:21:01 AM

I don't know the base car, but I know the coachbuilder...and I will not tell you the country! I'm really bad, today! So who is him?

Zerk · November 28, 2013, 11:25:07 AM

Quote from: targhediferro on November 27, 2013, 10:21:01 AM...and I will not tell you the country!...

New World, Western Hemisphere?

Bill Murray · November 28, 2013, 11:46:48 AM

Hi TGF/Zerk:

I was sort of waiting to see if someone would immediately identify this one or if it is going to be a long puzzle.
In my case, I already have two hours invested.

Just to put my thoughts here for possible help to anyone else, this is what I have come up with so far.

To begin, it seems to be a very crude attempt to copy a 1947 Oldsmobile woody station wagon. I am posting a photo of such a car here. As it happens, my dad owned one of these 1947-1950 and I really wish I could afford to buy another one and restore it, a beautiful car to be sure.

In any case, French, Italian and German coachbuilders built sort of replica bodies of the American style in the 1940's and 1950's and perhaps other countries did the same. Lots of research did not turn up anything yet. As a side note, Oldsmobile did not make a two door wagon in that year.

Another thing that strikes me is that the wheels seem to me to be of the type normally found on a light commercial vehicle, not a passenger car. The tyres are also quite narrow, indicating perhaps the basic vehicle was not all that large.

That is as far as I have gotten, might help someone else.

Bill

targhediferro · November 28, 2013, 01:05:00 PM

Hi Bill, I think you're right when saying that our puzzle car looks like a rough attempt to copy a 1947 Oldsmobile, but, as far as I know I suppose that there's no connection with that car. I don't know the base car, but I agree with you about the chance it comes from a little truck or perhaps a pre-war chassis. Good luck.

Zerk · November 29, 2013, 09:43:36 AM

I'm in complete agreement. Hubs resemble design practice of pre-1930. The grille, while not bad, doesn't gracefully turn out at the bottoms.

Although there's not been confirmation, I believe this was built in a South American country.

Bill Murray · November 29, 2013, 09:54:03 AM

Well, following a hunch, I researched also 1946 Oldsmobile station wagons as well as the 1947 I posted the picture of.

Zerk is very close in the sense it is from an Hispanic country, even if not South America where I also looked.

It is a rough copy of a 1946 Oldsmobile station wagon built on a 1920's American chassis. I have read Hupmobile, Nash and Hudson as possible donors of the chassis.

The builder was Carroceria Vert of the City of Girona in Spain.

Here is a rear view.

Bill

targhediferro · November 29, 2013, 10:27:00 AM

Well done Bill, a well deserved point for you.

Djetset · January 30, 2020, 10:22:20 AM

Something ugly but interesting for my 1,000th Puzzle.

So, for a point, who made this and what is its mechanical base?

Carnut · January 30, 2020, 01:41:16 PM

1000 puzzles!
You're in a very select group now...
Well done!

Djetset · January 30, 2020, 01:45:16 PM

Quote from: Carnut on January 30, 2020, 01:41:16 PM
1000 puzzles!
You're in a very select group now...
Well done!

Thank you Carnut, most kind. Here's to my 10,000th Puzzle in a few years time

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Carnut · January 30, 2020, 01:53:16 PM

Well, if you continue posting at the same rate your 10,000th puzzle should come up in about 110 years!

Djetset · January 30, 2020, 02:04:59 PM

Quote from: Carnut on January 30, 2020, 01:53:16 PM
Well, if you continue posting at the same rate your 10,000th puzzle should come up in about 110 years!

That will help to keep my brain active into (very) old age!

Djetset · February 08, 2020, 08:45:59 AM

Up to the Experts...

kwgibbs · February 08, 2020, 09:03:34 AM

just found the car,its a 1947 oldsmobile woody ,built by carroceria j. vert of girona spain?

targhediferro · February 08, 2020, 09:06:03 AM

It's an american chassis bodied in 1946-7 from Carroceria Vert, Girona, Spain; probably a '20s Hupmobile with other parts. But it's a repost of a quiz I posted some years ago.https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2013-42/solved-tgf-298-carroceria-j-vert-woody-wagon-unknown-base/msg301884/#msg301884

kwgibbs · February 08, 2020, 10:55:58 AM

Was my information correct though?

Djetset · February 09, 2020, 07:25:54 AM

Although this transpired to be a repost that didn't appear on a Search, I am going to award a point to kwgibbs as he got the key information of this being built by Carroceria Vert of Girona in Spain.

The car was created in the style of a late 1940s Oldsmobile Woodie station wagon, using a 1930s Nash as its mechanical base.

I guess this puzzle can now be merged please. Thank you.

kwgibbs · February 09, 2020, 07:53:57 AM

Thank You!very much

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Solved TGF-298; Carroceria J.Vert woody wagon, unknown base.