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Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« on: March 27, 2025, 12:46:43 AM »
Please identify this car for a point.
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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2025, 04:42:28 PM »
Open to Rookies and Experts.

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2025, 07:05:11 PM »
Pros?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2025, 01:52:38 AM »
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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2025, 12:32:21 PM »
European?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2025, 02:53:47 PM »

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2025, 03:06:26 PM »
British?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2025, 03:29:36 PM »

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2025, 03:48:42 PM »
German?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2025, 03:52:22 PM »
French?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #11 on: June 19, 2025, 11:23:35 PM »
Loreley ?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2025, 11:35:49 PM »

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #13 on: June 20, 2025, 10:52:17 AM »
C. Benz & Söhne ?

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #14 on: June 20, 2025, 03:04:12 PM »

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2025, 01:34:48 AM »
Lyddi 4-9ps Viersitzer 1909

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Re: GTE 803
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2025, 02:23:31 AM »
Lyddi 4-9ps Viersitzer 1909
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Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2025, 02:32:20 AM »
Thanks for the point

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Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2025, 08:05:35 AM »
Now, this got me interested as I hadn't heard of that brand before. After a bit of searching I found out that it was built by the Anhaltische Fahrzeugwerkstätte Robert Krause in Dessau. In my books that company is always said to have built their friction-driven car under the brand Dessavia (Latin for Dessau). We've had a puzzle car identified as Dessavia before: https://www.autopuzzles.com/forum/2023-56/si_536. And I know the book where the identification as a Dessavia comes from. But as you could see in the "Dessavia" thread this motorbike made to look like a car was sold by the Anhaltische Werkstätte as the Elektrik (I also found Elektrikwagen) and isn't friction-driven at all. Searching for Dessavia I did not find any sources from 1907-1910 referring to such a car. I wonder whether the phantom Dessavia was in fact the Lyddi car. But where might the car brand Dessavia have come from?

Below you find two pictures of the 1908 Lyddi 8 PS two-seater and a slightly darker version of the puzzle picture, the Lyddi 9 PS four-seater from 1909. The difference in the engine output may have been for promotional reasons, a 1908 source already states 8.34 PS for the engine.

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Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2025, 01:54:38 PM »
Now, this got me interested as I hadn't heard of that brand before. After a bit of searching I found out that it was built by the Anhaltische Fahrzeugwerkstätte Robert Krause in Dessau...
I went down the very same rabbit hole when I found the puzzle car and, like you, was unable to find any period evidence for the Dessavia brand.

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Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2025, 02:55:03 AM »
I don't know if these cars in the pictures are related to the Lyddi brand.

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Re: Solved: GTE 803 - Lyddi 4-9 ps 1909
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2025, 02:40:58 AM »
I would think so.
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