MJW #326 - Unidentified 3-wheeler spotted in Portugal in the 1980s

Otto Puzzell · May 14, 2011, 05:46:29 AM

Camina?

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 06:19:11 AM

Casino?

Allemano · May 14, 2011, 07:07:49 AM

Canino?

Allemano · May 14, 2011, 07:09:28 AM

Calino?

Otto Puzzell · May 14, 2011, 07:18:24 AM

Cabino?

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 09:11:34 AM

Not Camina, Camilo, Casino, Canino, Calino or Cabino!

Guido66 is closest........

Tom_I · May 14, 2011, 09:50:10 AM

How about Carino?

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 09:58:21 AM

Catino?

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM

The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped, perhaps it was based on one of these?

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 10:42:02 AM

Quote from: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 09:50:10 AM
How about Carino?

Carino is correct!
One point to you.
Hard luck to everyone else but thanks for joining in!

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 10:48:18 AM

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped, perhaps it was based on one of these?

It seems to be that.
The car is a bit of a mystery to me and the only reference to it is from a letter in an old German magazine - see below:

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM

The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.

Ah.......unfortunately I don't speak German and didn't think to translate the letter

Thanks Guido, it'll teach me to be more careful in future.

So, what to do..
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 12:19:51 PM

No problem

I think I've found the guy who wrote the letter. I've sent him an email to try and find out if he ever found more information on this vehicle.

Tom_I · May 14, 2011, 12:27:33 PM

Quote from: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?

I'm quite happy to relinquish the point. It was only gained by guessing at clues, after all.

I'm more interested in finding out what this car is, if we ever can.

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 01:14:52 PM

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 12:19:51 PM
No problem

I think I've found the guy who wrote the letter. I've sent him an email to try and find out if he ever found more information on this vehicle.

Hopefully we can learn more on this car - probably a 'one-off' built in Portugal.

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 01:18:56 PM

Quote from: Tom_I on May 14, 2011, 12:27:33 PM
Quote from: woodinsight on May 14, 2011, 11:32:30 AM
As it's my mistake, I'll leave the point I awarded to Tom_I and move the puzzle from the "solved" section to the "black hole" as an unsolved puzzle for future discussion.

I hope everyone agrees on this.....?

I'm quite happy to relinquish the point. It was only gained by guessing at clues, after all.

I'm more interested in finding out what this car is, if we ever can.

Well Tom although we didn't find the real identity you answered the clue correctly so I have no problem in you keeping that point - it's only a game after all.
I'm just as curious as you as to what it is - perhaps time will tell.

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 01:22:47 PM

After thinking this puzzle had been solved - it still remains a mystery and I'll (somewhat reluctantly) move it to the BH in case someone out there knows something more.
There's still a point to be gained by a positive identification.

guido66 · May 14, 2011, 02:28:38 PM

I've found and contacted the man who made the inquiry 20 years ago. Sadly he didn't receive any information back then. He confirmed that the moped and car have no relation.

woodinsight · May 14, 2011, 02:59:21 PM

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 02:28:38 PM
I've found and contacted the man who made the inquiry 20 years ago. Sadly he didn't receive any information back then. He confirmed that the moped and car have no relation.

Thanks Guido
I guess it's a question of wait and see if anyone knows this obscure three-wheeler

guido66 · May 15, 2011, 01:04:11 PM

The photo was taken in the late 80s in northern Portugal, by the father of Axel Wolters.

DeAutogids · May 15, 2011, 04:50:03 PM

Does he have an original (or better scan)?

GrahamClayton · November 02, 2024, 08:06:59 PM

Zweirad-Union Express Carino

gte4289 · November 02, 2024, 08:36:43 PM

Quote from: GrahamClayton on November 02, 2024, 08:06:59 PM
Zweirad-Union Express Carino

That's the identify of the inquisitor's moped, but the puzzle vehicle remains unidentified.

Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 11:15:36 AM
Quote from: guido66 on May 14, 2011, 10:03:56 AM
The Union Express Carino is a 1960s moped...
The letter is about 2 subjects: the writer is looking for parts and information for his Express Carino moped and also has an inquiry about the photo. It is no stated that there is any relation.

Note the worth ausserdem, which means also.

To me, it still is an unknown Portugese vehicle.

gte4289 · February 23, 2025, 04:47:10 PM

Moved from Black Hole

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MJW #326 - Unidentified 3-wheeler spotted in Portugal in the 1980s