Solved: PN #95 -- Frankonia, cca 1906

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 06:06:20 AM

Okay, first I go for SUN Motorenwerke from Berlin 1906-1908

Paul Jaray · June 30, 2010, 06:07:42 AM

and I'll try Altmann, (1905-1907) Kraftfahrzeug-Werke GmbH, Brandeburg/Havel

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 06:09:08 AM

Yes, the two cars are similar (regarding Nacke). It is not from Berlin or any of the big cities. It is neither Sun or Altmann

The city where this company resided had only one automobile manufacturer - this one which is the focus of this puzzle.

Paul Jaray · June 30, 2010, 06:11:06 AM

Cito?

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 06:15:33 AM

Let's make it easier. This one is not listed in the two-volume Beaulieu Encycloped of the Automobile

Paul Jaray · June 30, 2010, 06:17:01 AM

..and in the 3-volume

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 06:20:47 AM

Did they build only this model?

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 06:24:23 AM

Eastern part of Germany (still on German territory today?)

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 06:38:19 AM

I don't have the coachbuilder's volume of the Beaulieu Encyclopedia, but I highly doubt that it appeared in there.

I think this was their only model.

For a while the city belonged to East Germany. Today it is a spa town in Germany.

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 06:56:29 AM

situated at the Baltic Sea?

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 07:01:44 AM

Nope

Bugace · June 30, 2010, 07:17:59 AM

Then it is not a Colibri, as they made a 2 seater as well.

Paul Jaray · June 30, 2010, 07:40:59 AM

Quote from: pnegyesi on June 30, 2010, 06:15:33 AM
Let's make it easier. This one is not listed in the two-volume Beaulieu Encycloped of the Automobile

I have the 3-volume edition, 4 with the coachbuilder's volume, but I guess it's not there either.

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 08:24:25 AM

It not a Colibri

DeAutogids.nl · June 30, 2010, 08:27:43 AM

Well, it could not be, as the factory making it made the Selve as well, for example.

You said it only made one marque.

DeAutogids.nl · June 30, 2010, 08:34:44 AM

Corona?

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 08:37:48 AM

It is not a Corona either

Bugace · June 30, 2010, 08:50:29 AM

Braun/Premier from Nurnberg?

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 08:52:58 AM

Nürnberg had plenty of car manufacturers... In other words: it is not a Braun or Premier

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 09:31:41 AM

from Thuringia?

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 09:46:55 AM

Yes, from the state of Thuringia

Bugace · June 30, 2010, 10:06:27 AM

I have 281 german makes before '45.

I don't have the Beaulieu Encyclopedia.
You say it's a '10, in Germany, a city that was inside former eastern germany, and now is inside Germany, but not Berlin. Today the city is known for spa. The maker excisted three years or less.

I'm belive I have no chance on this one. In Wismar, there was a make, Podeus, but they excisted to '18.
In Aachen, Scheele was from '99 to '10.
Vogtland is too known, and I'm unsure if they was in east, or west. Also one of my sources tell '10 to '15, and he is German. Other places I read '10 to '13.
The last option I have is Westfalia, but they also excisted over a 5 year periode.
Looking forward too see what this is, as it will be something not well known.

Allemano · June 30, 2010, 10:19:40 AM

I'll get back to this car later. Hope there's noone who finish this off in the meantime...

pnegyesi · June 30, 2010, 10:42:19 AM

It is before 1910. And Bugace, it is none of the manufacturers you listed. I can't even recall how I ended up on the page describing this automobile. But it's quite interesting, isn't it

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Paul Jaray · June 30, 2010, 10:43:19 AM

Hi Bugace,
welcome to Autopuzzles!

It seems I'm not the only one listing all the manufacturers that are\were around!
I restricted the list down to 70 names, but still too many...and I can't check the city for each one of them...
I have a car AAG, not in the Beaulieu (and also the 1st of the list)...any chance?

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Solved: PN #95 -- Frankonia, cca 1906

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