Hansa Treff-As Rennwagen, 1925 (raced in Argentina)

grobmotorix · September 30, 2010, 07:45:07 AM

Who can tell me some facts about this vehicle?

grobmotorix · October 05, 2010, 08:55:08 AM

Time to be promoted.

grobmotorix · October 19, 2010, 02:39:27 AM

O.K., the original picture was a mere 3x2cm and I do not have another one.

So this is hard, but it´s a challenge also

pnegyesi · October 19, 2010, 02:58:04 AM

German?

grobmotorix · October 19, 2010, 03:11:52 AM

Yes, it is german.

pnegyesi · October 19, 2010, 03:22:55 AM

From a small manufacturer?

grobmotorix · October 19, 2010, 03:52:10 AM

It was a bigger and (then) well known manufacturer.

grobmotorix · November 10, 2010, 08:25:22 AM

If no one will ask or answer this will be acme black hole stuff.

Aaron65 · November 10, 2010, 05:55:00 PM

I'll start--how about an Auto Union???

grobmotorix · November 10, 2010, 07:13:01 PM

Not Wanderer, DKW, Horch or Audi.
This car was built years before the Auto-Union was formed from those four makes.

The marque you should look for was part of another german auto manufacturer´s conglomerate.

Aaron65 · November 10, 2010, 09:45:52 PM

Hansa-Lloyd?

pnegyesi · November 11, 2010, 01:00:09 AM

or is this a Protos NAG?

woodinsight · November 11, 2010, 01:25:05 AM

Durkopp?

grobmotorix · November 11, 2010, 02:39:13 AM

LOCKED for Aaron65 for 24h.

It is indeed a Hansa. I just need a model designation of this racing variation of a stock model and the point will be yours.

Aaron65 · November 11, 2010, 06:51:12 PM

Well, finding info on pre-Borgward Hansas isn't easy, and I don't have any books on them. Sooo, it looks like the car is around a 1915 model if I had to guess by the picture. The only model designation I can find from that area is a 16-50 PS. I also found a Type E that seems like the sports model, but the name doesn't seem to jibe with the others I found.

grobmotorix · November 12, 2010, 05:00:33 AM

Search Autopuzzles and you will find the name...

Aaron65 · November 12, 2010, 06:34:48 AM

I may have to update my estimation of the year...is it from the A6/A8 family?

grobmotorix · November 12, 2010, 07:04:58 AM

not an A-Type.

Aaron65 · November 12, 2010, 08:09:59 AM

Ummmm...6/18hp?

grobmotorix · November 12, 2010, 10:31:05 AM

I do not want to hear numbers...

Aaron65 · November 12, 2010, 11:02:48 AM

Trumpf-As??? Sorry I'm so obtuse about this!

grobmotorix · November 12, 2010, 11:47:14 AM

Almost done...

Besides the Trumpf As there also was the Tr***-As.

I can smell your point now!

Aaron65 · November 12, 2010, 11:49:27 AM

Treff-As?!?!

grobmotorix · November 12, 2010, 12:51:59 PM

Sorry for torturing you. But now we have it.

It is an Hansa Treff-As Rennwagen, which was running as a racing car in Argentina in 1925.
I do not have a driver´s name or further facts.

Maybe some of our south american pros will have some additional information.

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Hansa Treff-As Rennwagen, 1925 (raced in Argentina)