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Solved: Wendax 1700 - Butenuth Dampfauto

Started by Wendax, September 14, 2015, 03:06:21 AM

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Wendax

Not a turbine, but a steam engine.

Bill Murray

Henschel-Doble conversion?
Cheers
Bill

Wendax


4popoid

Following up on Bill's question: Was the steam engine manufacturer also a manufacturer of steam locomotives like O&K (Orenstein & Koppel)?

Wendax


4popoid

Was this truck mechanically driven by steam, or was it powered by steam generated electricity?

Wendax

No electric propulsion

Bill Murray

I realize you are supposed to only ask one question/give one answer at a time, however.....

The only other German manufacturer that I have found that was still around in 1945/6 that once did steam powered trucks was Hanomag.  Assuming the manufacturer/maker was German would that be Hanomag?
Cheers
Bill

Wendax


Bill Murray

I think Spence and I need some guidance.

The manufacturer of the propulsion system was not involved in steam railroad engines and was not one of the two companies I could find in germany that made steam lorries.

So, for a possible new direction, was the manufacturer of the propulsion system German??
Cheers
Bill

Bill Murray

While waiting for an answer to my last question, I found that Vomag made wood-gas engined lorries from 1940 and the round tube under the radiator looks exactly the same as in the puzzle Ford.

Could Vomag be involved in this vehicle?
Cheers
Bill

Wendax

Yes, the builder of the propulsion system was German and is not unknown at AP, but not in connection with steam engines. Vomag was not involved.

4popoid

Was the manufacturer of this propulsion system known for the manufacture of non-steam powered commercial vehicles?

Wendax


4popoid

Econom (Helmut Butenuth)?

Wendax

Yes, although it was not called Econom, but Butenuth _________. Locked for you to find the (quite generic German) name.

4popoid

Thanks for the lock Gerd.  I hope I can solve the last part of the name, given my extremely limited command of the German language.

You say the missing part of the name is a generic German word.  I'm guessing this would be something like "steam truck/lorry" or "steam powered truck/lorry".  Playing around with the Google translator I came up with a German word(s) which seems to fit the generic requirement.  So, is the name you are seeking: Butenuth Dampflastwagen, Butenuth Dampfkraftwagen, or Butenuth Dampflastkraftwagen (Butenuth Dampf-LKW)?

Wendax

Very close, it is Butenuth Dampfxxxx. Still locked.

4popoid

Perhaps I'm thinking too big.  Maybe not steam truck, but only steam engine.  How about: Butenuth Dampfmotor?

Wendax

Yes, you were thinking too big, but it is more than just the engine. We are looking for a four-letter word.

4popoid

Hmmm, more than just an "steam engine".  Perhaps a "steam system".  Butenuth Dampfnetz?     

Wendax

Even more, the whole vehicle!  ;)

4popoid

Aaargh, I've come full circle (back to steam truck).  Unfortunately my translator only gives me words with more than nine letters (DampfXXXX) for steam truck, steam lorry, steam transporter, etc.  I did find one four letter word for truck, wagon, dumper, but my translator doesn't want to mate it with dampf.  I'll have to give it a try, as I don't know where else to look.  Butenuth Dampflore? 

Wendax

Well, we Germans are quite creative in forming word compositions, and I doubt that your translator knows all of them.  ;D But the solution is easier than you might think. At first, forget about the composed word. Just look for a four-letter word describing road vehicles in a more general sense than truck. Then you put Dampf in front of it and the point will be finally yours. Last round of torture, I promise.  ;)

4popoid

The only other four letter German word I can come up with, that describes "road vehicles in a more general sense", is: "auto".  To me this doesn't really describe the puzzle vehicle, but then I am thinking in English, and there is the word Autobahn which applies to all types of vehicles.  So I'll try: Dampfauto.